Leeds lost pubs

[Bert]

Philt wrote: drapesy wrote: Philt - I've just had a fascinating time searching leodis.Meadow lane seems to have been wall-to wall pubs over the years In addition to the Red Lion, which survives there has been aSpread EagleEagle and ChildOld Red HouseUnion TavernSouth Market HotelOld GeorgeJacob's Well There was also a 'Fleece Lane' off meadow Lane, suggesting there was once a 'Fleece' and a Brewery - McQuats who supplied the Red Lion, amongst others ( I think there was a pub on Briggate/duncan street nicknamed ' McQuats' for many years)Of these some closed many years ago - my guess is that the pub you remember is Jacob's well - Leodis has a very good picture of it taken in 1964, and it shows it to be a Tetley pub. Thanks again drapesy - the pub I meant was jacob's Well Drapesey/PhiltThe Red House was a Tetleys House too. Must have been. Ed O'Donnel's Jazz Band played there in the early 1960s and Ed was/is (he's still playing in his 80s!) famous for patronising only Tetley's houses and only drinking Tetley's Mild. I know for certain that he played there because I got arrested there and fined £2 for drinking under age in 1961 during one of Ed's performances there.Bert

[Bert]

Anyone remember the little old Travellers Rest on the corner of Station Road and Austhorpe Road, Crossgates, before it was knocked down in the late 1950s and replaced by the massive new one across the road on the north side of the roundabout in the angle between Crossgates Lane and the Ring Road? Better still, does anyone have a photo of it? Best I can do is this ancient postcard view looking down Station Road with the corner of the old Travellers visible in the left foreground and the Austhorpe Road turning just beyond it. In its day this little gem was usually packed with loyal customers even though it was a John Smith's house with a good Tetley's competitor not far away in the form of the Station Hotel at the bottom of Station Road - still there and prospering.

[drapesy]

Bert wrote: Anyone remember the little old Travellers Rest on the corner of Station Road and Austhorpe Road, Crossgates, before it was knocked down in the late 1950s and replaced by the massive new one across the road on the north side of the roundabout in the angle between Crossgates Lane and the Ring Road? Better still, does anyone have a photo of it? Best I can do is this ancient postcard view looking down Station Road with the corner of the old Travellers visible in the left foreground and the Austhorpe Road turning just beyond it. In its day this little gem was usually packed with loyal customers even though it was a John Smith's house with a good Tetley's competitor not far away in the form of the Station Hotel at the bottom of Station Road - still there and prospering. That replacement changed its name to the Red Lion a few years ago, for some reason. - theres a chinese restaurant attached to it now. This Leodis pic is from 1906.

[Bert]

Thanks Drapesy. Great pic. Leodis seems to be just inexhaustible! Incidentally, I wonder if the building in my post card is an even older one than the one in the Leodis pic? In the latter you can just make out some kind of dark awning on the Station Road corner of the building for which there seems to be no structural reason in the post card picture.

[drapesy]

Bert wrote: Thanks Drapesy. Great pic. Leodis seems to be just inexhaustible! Incidentally, I wonder if the building in my post card is an even older one than the one in the Leodis pic? In the latter you can just make out some kind of dark awning on the Station Road corner of the building for which there seems to be no structural reason in the post card picture. No, I dont think so - I think its the same building, photographed at a very similar period in time; one photo from the Station Road side[the postcard] and one from Austhorpe Lane[Leodis]. I think the 'awning' you refer to is actually the bracket and lamp that was right on the corner of the building and which can be seen in both photos.    

[Bert]

You're right Drapesy. I hadn't spotted the lamp in the postcard pic.Bert

[Bert]

Bert wrote: You're right Drapesy. I hadn't spotted the lamp in the postcard pic.Bert Drapesy. I just found this photo, said to have been taken in the 1950s, showing both the front and the side. As you will see, a side door has vanished and a Dutch end gable has appeared. It looks as though the old hip roof has been removed and the roof extended incorporating the Dutch gable. The building itself doesn't seem to be any bigger, so it's a bit of a mystery why they went to all the expense.                

[Bert]

Here's yet another photo looking straight down Austhorpe Road showing both the front and side, this time without the Dutch gable and with the hip roof; and this one is said to have been taken in 1910 - further evidence that the Dutch end gable followed rather than preceded the hip.            

[Bert]

The odd thing is, it would make more sense if it was the other way round (i.e. if the '1950s' Dutch end gable pic was really much older, pre-dating the hip roof ones). Then you could assume that the Dutch end gable and what I now see is a third chimney stack integral to it, were removed and replaced with the hip roof so as to be able to remove an internal chimney breast to enlarge the internal room space on two floors and create the side entrance. That would make more sense both financially and visually, since the older hip roof building looks more modern and less characterful than the newer Dutch gable one. But the dates I have put on them are very definitely the dates attributed to them. They must have removed the side entrance and created the Dutch end gable with its chimney stack to make it possible to install fireplaces in the end rooms, thus improving both the internal comfort of customers and the external appearance. If so it's a rare example of the cosiness and character of a pub being enhanced rather than destroyed in Leeds. Maybe there's somebody out there who knows the true story.        

[Brandy]

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