Dialect/slang

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Sun 30 Nov, 2008 7:30 pm

Geordie-exile wrote: leesparky wrote: Leeds slang is great.However, the bit that bugs me is saying 'lend' and 'borrow' the wrong way round - argh! It drives me mad!!! It is annoying, but it's not Leeds-centric I don't think - just a common mis-statement. Like 'conflab' for the more correct 'confab'. Or saying 'haitch' instead of the correct 'aitch'. 'Brought' instead of 'bought' is another I hear a lot. I don't know if these are Leeds 'sayings' but I remember a lot of my contemporaries saying 'bockle' and 'chimley'. i just put this down to being uneducated or just lay talk!!

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Sun 30 Nov, 2008 8:16 pm

I have known Harewood House as it is spelt now it is allways pronounced Harrwood House did we say it wrong or have they changed it.?

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 30 Nov, 2008 8:31 pm

sundowner wrote: I have known Harewood House as it is spelt now it is allways pronounced Harrwood House did we say it wrong or have they changed it.? Harewood is the name of the place, Harwood Earls - I think that's correct.

Lilysmum · Post by **Lilysmum** » Sun 30 Nov, 2008 9:38 pm

sundowner wrote: I have known Harewood House as it is spelt now it is allways pronounced Harrwood House did we say it wrong or have they changed it.? It's normally pronounced "airwud owse" unless your posh and talk proper like wot I do.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 15 Dec, 2008 11:23 am

"Clap-cold" - cold.Does anyone know the origins of this?My wife can't say cold without saying clap-cold!

sundowner · Post by **sundowner** » Mon 15 Dec, 2008 8:56 pm

Lilysmum wrote: sundowner wrote: I have known Harewood House as it is spelt now it is allways pronounced Harrwood House did we say it wrong or have they changed it.? It's normally pronounced "airwud owse" unless your posh and talk proper like wot I do. Hi Lilysmum you must have gone to the same school as wot i did.I went to a high school it was on a hill.It was also approved.

FLOJO · Post by **FLOJO** » Tue 16 Dec, 2008 4:42 am

Si wrote: "Clap-cold" - cold.Does anyone know the origins of this?My wife can't say cold without saying clap-cold! Si, my mother would say you have let your tea go clap cold, I still say it and don't know where it comes from.

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Tue 16 Dec, 2008 11:33 am

sundowner wrote: Lilysmum wrote: sundowner wrote: I have known Harewood House as it is spelt now it is allways pronounced Harrwood House did we say it wrong or have they changed it.? It's normally pronounced "airwud owse" unless your posh and talk proper like wot I do. Hi Lilysmum you must have gone to the same school as wot i did.I went to a high school it was on a hill.It was also approved. Just because the BBC and others say Harwood doesn't mean it's correct. Years of inbreeding among the so-called "upper" classes has engendered impediments other than "chinless wonders". Apparently Evelyn Waugh always pronounced claret as "clart", a good Yorkshire word meaning something else entirely! I've often wondered that on the occasions he broke wind, if he would consider he'd let rip a "faret"!

Si · Post by Si » Tue 16 Dec, 2008 12:47 pm

"Clart" sounds to me like a silly Waugh affectation. After all, the word comes from the French "clairet" (pronounced "clairay") meaning "pale," as Bordeaux wine was originally a rose, unlike the more powerful red (cabernet sauvignon) produced today.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Tue 16 Dec, 2008 11:18 pm

Si wrote: "Clart" sounds to me like a silly Waugh affectation. After all, the word comes from the French "clairet" (pronounced "clairay") meaning "pale," as Bordeaux wine was originally a rose, unlike the more powerful red (cabernet sauvignon) produced today. I think "clart" is a local version of "clout" = cloth. As in shart = shout abart = about etc.