Traffic Census

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Mon 20 Oct, 2008 10:30 pm

60081 50B wrote: LS1 wrote: chameleon wrote: LS1 wrote: Whatever happened to those gantries that were down near Thwaite Mills, on Low Road i think they were. Last time I went there they had disappeared??? Those will be the ones I referred to yesterday, used for early 'research'. But then, by the time it's in, who knows what technology will bring forth in the future for tracking us all - probably all have to have an RFID chip implanted like our cat! Yeah but they're not there anymore I can confirm that the gantries are no longer over Low RoadOn a separate point: Stage 7 of Leeds Inner Ring Road opened this week - the carriage way towards Leeds on Monday 13.10.2006 - and the carriage way away from Leeds today Saturday 18.10.2008 - both carriage ways cross Hunslet Road on a viaduct - the Southbound carriage way links directly into the M621 Indeed it did - I've driven over the John Smeaton Viaduct and it's a sight better than what lies beneath. I am surprised that no official announcement has been made though - perhaps they're waiting for the adjoining M1 link road up the old Pontefract Lane to be finished (this month according to the signs), although parts of it are already in use (and seem very bendy for a new road...)

60081 50B · Post by **60081 50B** » Mon 20 Oct, 2008 10:41 pm

raveydavey wrote: 60081 50B wrote: LS1 wrote: chameleon wrote: LS1 wrote: Whatever happened to those gantries that were down near Thwaite Mills, on Low Road i think they were. Last time I went there they had disappeared??? Those will be the ones I referred to yesterday, used for early 'research'. But then, by the time it's in, who knows what technology will bring forth in the future for tracking us all - probably all have to have an RFID chip implanted like our cat! Yeah but they're not there anymore I can confirm that the gantries are no longer over Low RoadOn a separate point: Stage 7 of Leeds Inner Ring Road opened this week - the carriage way towards Leeds on Monday 13.10.2006 - and the carriage way away from Leeds today Saturday 18.10.2008 - both carriage ways cross Hunslet Road on a viaduct - the Southbound carriage way links directly into the M621 Indeed it did - I've driven over the John Smeaton Viaduct and it's a sight better than what lies beneath. I am surprised that no official announcement has been made though - perhaps they're waiting for the adjoining M1 link road up the old Pontefract Lane to be finished (this month according to the signs), although parts of it are already in use (and seem very bendy for a new road...) I drive along Pontefract Lane each evening mostly on what will eventually become the opposite carriageway - I doubt that this road will be completed before Christmas

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Mon 20 Oct, 2008 11:33 pm

To be fair, the new east bound on-slip to the M621, which is almost the last piece of the lirr7 jigsaw, looked far from complete only a couple of weeks ago but was partially opened last Thursday

bramley13 · Post by **bramley13** » Wed 22 Oct, 2008 8:14 pm

they were on the ring road at 7.00 this morning,and when i came home at 17.15.busy anyway in rush hour from yeadon to rodley,but worse tonight.they closed a lane on the ring road horsforth to rodley.im just glad i didnt get pulled,i might of said somthing i regret.who in their right mind blocks a busy road in rush hour.not right in the head i say

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Thu 23 Oct, 2008 9:23 pm

bramley13 wrote: they were on the ring road at 7.00 this morning,and when i came home at 17.15.busy anyway in rush hour from yeadon to rodley,but worse tonight.they closed a lane on the ring road horsforth to rodley.im just glad i didnt get pulled,i might of said somthing i regret.who in their right mind blocks a busy road in rush hour.not right in the head i say Ah, you miss the point. Now they'll be able to say how bad the traffic was on that road last time they checked...

MrsG · Post by **MrsG** » Mon 27 Oct, 2008 9:16 pm

Not sure if this will affect any of you guys but between 27th Oct - 4th Nov there will be another census - this time at night in the area of the university. Was checking the fax machine at work today and we'd been sent a random fax from the census company looking for night shift workers for 'research into driving'!!

Steve Jones · Post by **Steve Jones** » Tue 28 Oct, 2008 7:19 am

What was the company name?

MrsG · Post by **MrsG** » Tue 28 Oct, 2008 10:25 pm

no company name on it - few spelling mistakes though!?!There's just a name (carol nardell) and phone number to call.

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 08 Mar, 2010 11:33 pm

Seems someone at the top has realised road charging may be less than fair - strangely just as an election is due, Non the less it does seem that 2.3£M has effectively been wasted already in Leeds on this, a sum which could no doubt have been put to more directly beneficial use in some small way for transport. YEP:Leeds road pricing u-turn as £2 billion fund is axedMinisters have abandoned their bid to tempt Leeds City Council into adopting road pricing and axed a huge £2bn fund for public transport projects.In a statement to MPs, the Government revealed that it has scrapped the controversial Transport Innovation Fund (TIF).The Department for Transport (DfT) had pledged to pay £200m into the fund each year for ten years from 2008/09 to 2018/19, making it a £2bn cash pot.However, councils were told they could only win hand-outs from TIF if they agreed to introduce some form of "demand management", or congestion charging.Leeds was given £2.3m of Government cash to investigate congestion charging, even though the council's Conservative/Liberal Democrat leadership repeatedly spoke out against it.Now, in a major u-turn, the DfT announced that TIF will be dumped and replaced with a so-called Urban Challenge Fund, which will not require councils to introduce pay-as-you-drive schemes.But the DfT has refused to say how large this new fund will be, prompting accusations that the Government has pulled off a huge "stealth cut" in transport funding.Coun Andrew Carter, the Tory joint leader of Leeds City Council, said: "The Secretary of State for Transport has had to abandon the shambolic charging policy but at the same time the Government has trousered the £2bn and quite clearly this money is not going to be available to invest in much needed transport infrastructure, which is scandalous."What they have done is effectively cut the transport budget by stealth."Whitehall's road pricing plans suffered a crippling blow in December 2008 when 79 per cent of voters in Manchester rejected plans for a congestion charge.Manchester was told that a "yes" vote would lead to the city getting £1.5bn of public funding for new tram lines, extra buses and trains. Other councils were encouraged to bid for the TIF money but only £40m of the fund was ever paid out.The written statement by transport minister Sadiq Khan admitted the flaws in the policy, saying: "Its weaknesses lay in its too narrow a focus on the issue of congestion, the failure to win public acceptance for the more challenging proposals. "The new fund will draw on the lessons from TIF and the new ideas that have come forward."Mr Khan added: "Funding for the Urban Challenge Fund will be top-sliced from the department's overall funding allocation after the next Comprehensive Spending Review."The new fund will also try to cut carbon emissions, improve road safety and encourage healthy alternatives like cycling and walking. Another transport programme, the Sustainable Travel Towns initiative, is being merged into the new fund.

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Tue 09 Mar, 2010 10:53 am

So as we are almost at the end of the 2nd of the 10 year cycle £400m should have been paid into the TIF but the article says only £40m has been paid out. Is this why Supertram didn't happen?