E B Balmforth- Another one bites the dust

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 2:49 pm

LS1 wrote: Apart from the fact that it has been left to rot, why did it "need" to be demolished? for the reason you mention and because there semed to be no apparent need for it. can you thin of one?it is architecturally nondescript, seemingly has no use, and takes up valuable land.As long as the building is well recorded visually and archivally-it does have a connection with the hostory of the area, then I don't see a problem.Go to the other end of the city and check out the Braime Building. It is also redundant. The difference is that it is in good condition, it is of archirectural merit-the brickwork is superb, and could have a practical future use-benefitting the local area.by the way I meant to say 'iff' this building needs demolishing: but my point still stands.

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 5:53 pm

See your point, but all too often buildings seem to be purposely left to rot away like the York Road Library for example, so that they get to a state where they are totally unrepairable. Look at the old cloth hall for eg on Kirkgate. Should it have been left to go to ruin? Should Balmforths have been left to go to ruin? who knows.It was only due to cost that the whole block was not demolished when the Sheepscar Interchange was constructed, so I wonder how long it will take for the shops round the back and the old Midland Bank to go!

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 6:01 pm

LS1 wrote: See your point, but all too often buildings seem to be purposely left to rot away like the York Road Library for example, so that they get to a state where they are totally unrepairable. Look at the old cloth hall for eg on Kirkgate. Should it have been left to go to ruin? Should Balmforths have been left to go to ruin? who knows.It was only due to cost that the whole block was not demolished when the Sheepscar Interchange was constructed, so I wonder how long it will take for the shops round the back and the old Midland Bank to go! I agree, and it's it's a common ploy when people want to demolish listed buildings.but regarding balmforths: as a building what did it have going for it?

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 6:13 pm

Suppose you're right really, just being sentimental as I've known it since a kid, and it is the last remanent of how Sheepscar used to be apart from the Library the Eagle and the Harry Joes Parade!

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 7:50 pm

LS1 wrote: Suppose you're right really, just being sentimental as I've known it since a kid, and it is the last remanent of how Sheepscar used to be apart from the Library the Eagle and the Harry Joes Parade! do you remember the original roscoe?

iansmithofotley · Post by **iansmithofotley** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 8:15 pm

Hi fevlad,I remember the original Roscoe, it was a tiny pub in Chapeltown Road, not far from the Prince of Wales and on the same side. It wasn't in the immediate area around Sheepscar Junction (also locally known as the 'Golden Cross' [after the pub]). Ian.

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 8:33 pm

cheers matethe new roscoe is a usic pub with live bandswhat sort of boozer was the original.Presumably it had a lot of Irishness about it, since the 'new' roscoe has: which if I remember was a working mens club.

Phill_d · Post by **Phill_d** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 8:43 pm

I did a post about the old & New Roscoe a while ago here http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... readID=527

iansmithofotley · Post by **iansmithofotley** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 8:51 pm

Hi fevlad,Here is a Leodis link:http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... LAY=FULLIt was a pub that was frequented by some Irish people. I also seem to remember that some live Irish music was played, by some of the regulars, on accordions and concertinas It was a real 'drinkers' pub and some would drink until they dropped. Also, in the 1960/70's it was frequented by prostitutes, as was the Prince of Wales at Barrack Street junction. I can't remember when the pubs were demolished.Some of the Irish people worked for firms such as Murphy's or did road building and tarmaccing. Many of them were single and lived in rented rooms in Chapeltown. They would be in the pubs, every night after they had finished work, from 5.30pm until closing time. Ian

iansmithofotley · Post by **iansmithofotley** » Mon 07 Apr, 2008 8:56 pm

Hi Phil,Thanks for the link, it is very interesting. You posted whilst I was still completing my last comments.Ian.