Signs of old leodis

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 4:34 pm

arry awk wrote: The Acorn Leeds/Bradford RdStill selling Hammond's Ales!Not sure what year but the White Vauxhall Victormakes it late 60's early 70's? it isn't a vauxhall victor arry, its a ford coarsair. They came out in the mid sxties

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 7:58 pm

wasn't duttons a lake district brewery?It wasn't a bad pint and there were a few duttons houses in Yorks. I was a regular in the crown in Normanton back in the day, and they sold duttonsIn a word 'No'.Dutton's were based in Blackburn but took over the Kirkstall Brewery in 1936 (and their estate of pubs in Leeds and round about) - but continued to brew at the Kirkstall Brewery. In turn Duttons were taken over by Whitbread(1958 ) who continued to brew at Kirkstall (mainly 'Trophy bitter') until the site's closure in 1983. The brewery is now student flats.

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 8:19 pm

drapesy wrote: wasn't duttons a lake district brewery?It wasn't a bad pint and there were a few duttons houses in Yorks. I was a regular in the crown in Normanton back in the day, and they sold duttonsIn a word 'No'.Dutton's were based in Blackburn but took over the Kirkstall Brewery in 1936 (and their estate of pubs in Leeds and round about) - but continued to brew at the Kirkstall Brewery. In turn Duttons were taken over by Whitbread(1958 ) who continued to brew at Kirkstall (mainly 'Trophy bitter') until the site's closure in 1983. The brewery is now student flats. I'm almost certain there was a dutton's in the lake district as welledit: on the other hand being in Blackburn they woiuld have plenty of pubs up there.If what you are saying is true then the pubs must have kept their signeasge up for a long time. The Crown was signed as a Duttons House into the late sixties.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 8:58 pm

My info came from Wikipedia (actually gives a date of 1957 - not 1958 as I said) however a bit of 'googling' of Dutton's brings up a different date - 1964 - which I think is more likely to be correct. This source also says :"Further takeovers and name changes occurred over the years. In 1938 after a reflotation, the name changed to Dutton's Lancashire and Yorkshire Brewery Corporation Ltd.In 1947 the company purchased the share capital of Jonas Alexander & Sons of Kendal."so presumably that is the Lake district connection.

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 10:44 pm

drapesy wrote: My info came from Wikipedia (actually gives a date of 1957 - not 1958 as I said) however a bit of 'googling' of Dutton's brings up a different date - 1964 - which I think is more likely to be correct. This source also says :"Further takeovers and name changes occurred over the years. In 1938 after a reflotation, the name changed to Dutton's Lancashire and Yorkshire Brewery Corporation Ltd.In 1947 the company purchased the share capital of Jonas Alexander & Sons of Kendal."so presumably that is the Lake district connection. could besometimes though when breweries tokk over other breweries, brand names were kept for a while, maybe thios is why the Crown still was selling Duttons in the late 60safter Bentleys were taken over you could stillbuy what was supposed to be BYB even after the bbrewery was knocked down.I remember buying Ramsdens in our student union in 1970 and I'm sure they'd been taken over by then

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 10:58 pm

arry awk wrote: Does that say 'Warren's' over Timmy Whites old door???After my disappointment over Morrison's Best real ale,(Too lively!) I risked another bottle yesterday and it was perfect! Great stuff. ThanksArry Tolja Now go to Asda and try Robinson's "Old Tom!" 7%!

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 30 Mar, 2008 11:07 pm

fevlad wrote: drapesy wrote: My info came from Wikipedia (actually gives a date of 1957 - not 1958 as I said) however a bit of 'googling' of Dutton's brings up a different date - 1964 - which I think is more likely to be correct. This source also says :"Further takeovers and name changes occurred over the years. In 1938 after a reflotation, the name changed to Dutton's Lancashire and Yorkshire Brewery Corporation Ltd.In 1947 the company purchased the share capital of Jonas Alexander & Sons of Kendal."so presumably that is the Lake district connection. could besometimes though when breweries tokk over other breweries, brand names were kept for a while, maybe thios is why the Crown still was selling Duttons in the late 60safter Bentleys were taken over you could stillbuy what was supposed to be BYB even after the bbrewery was knocked down.I remember buying Ramsdens in our student union in 1970 and I'm sure they'd been taken over by then Ramsdens were taken over by Tetleys in the late sixties I think - whether they closed the brewery immediately I couldn't say - I wasn't that interested in beer at the time - but there was a former Ramsden's house in Morley - The Albion - which has been boarded up for some time now and is becoming something of an eyesore. If I remember correctly Ramsdens were famed for their light mild.Bentleys. Duttons, Whitakers were all breweries with pubs in the Leeds area, and they were all taken over by Whitbreads, intitially to be "protected" under the Whitbread "umbrella" but taken over nonetheless. So presumably for some time they continued to produce BYB etc. The major Whitbread Brewery in Yorkshire was in Sheffield although perhaps some of the beer in also came from Blackburn. Whitbread Trophy was p!ss IMO.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 31 Mar, 2008 9:47 am

The Fox and Grapes in Pudsey was also signed Dutton's into the late 60s. I remember the logo on the building was the same as the one in the photo, before it was changed to Whitbreads. I didn't think much of Trophy, either, but everyone seems to remember the ads!

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 31 Mar, 2008 10:22 am

Si wrote: The Fox and Grapes in Pudsey was also signed Dutton's into the late 60s. I remember the logo on the building was the same as the one in the photo, before it was changed to Whitbreads. I didn't think much of Trophy, either, but everyone seems to remember the ads! a scientist writes:the better the ads the crapper the beer

Si · Post by Si » Mon 31 Mar, 2008 10:30 am

Works for me. Tetley's ads were [edited for content] at the time.