Disaster at Mount Saint Mary's

Post by **cnosni** » Thu 21 Feb, 2008 1:59 am

Saw the article in the YEP,the chap went on to implicate that if this was an Anglican church that it would not have come to such an end.Well its a fact that there were many more anglican churches that came to a sticky end than catholic ones,and the reason is because there was no longer a congregation for those churches, the same as Mount st Marys.Its not a conspiracy to rid the world of a Catholic church,its a fact of life that not so many people go to church as what once did,no matter what denomination.The communities that used these churches have moved on and away from the influence of the church.Thats not to say that the church should not be preserved,but it does not mean that it is being sacrificed on the altar of selective christian denomination, thats a narrow minded view of nurtured from being religiously persecuted which is at least 90 years out of date.If those people of the Catholic faith feel so strongly then do something about it,same goes for those Anglicans who wish to preserve disused Anglican churches.

BIG N · Post by **BIG N** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 3:31 am

Sorry to show my ignorance, but as a newby to Leeds (only been here about 20 years ) can I just ask - where is the church in question please ??

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 7:54 am

BIG N wrote: Sorry to show my ignorance, but as a newby to Leeds (only been here about 20 years ) can I just ask - where is the church in question please ?? Its on Ricmond Hill,overlooking town.It was/is what was called "The Bank",home to the many Irish immigrants who came to Leeds and many other northern cities following the potato famine.And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history!

BIG N · Post by **BIG N** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 12:06 pm

Thanks - I know the one you mean now

Post by **chameleon** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 1:14 pm

'And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! 'Not wanting to encourage anyone, but from the voluminous research and records my wife has amassed, seems I might hve decendants from the Irish Mercenaries!

wiggy · Post by **wiggy** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 6:57 pm

chameleon wrote: 'And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! 'Not wanting to encourage anyone, but from the voluminous research and records my wife has amassed, seems I might hve decendants from the Irish Mercenaries! i think half of bluddy leeds is descended from potato famine exiles..including me on my maternal grandads side.a lot moved to manchester,then to leeds during the cotton famine,which was caused by the american civil war...

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 26 Feb, 2008 1:14 am

wiggy wrote: chameleon wrote: 'And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! 'Not wanting to encourage anyone, but from the voluminous research and records my wife has amassed, seems I might hve decendants from the Irish Mercenaries! i think half of bluddy leeds is descended from potato famine exiles..including me on my maternal grandads side.a lot moved to manchester,then to leeds during the cotton famine,which was caused by the american civil war... Got Irish on both sides,though i feel no particular afffinity with Ireland,unlike a lot who do find they had Irish ancestors.Had a good old laugh at the actor John Hurt on Who do you think you are.He was convinced that he was descended from Irish nobility,and could feel the Gaelic blood and the passion running through his veins and that he was more an Irishman than English.Pompous T**t looked an idiot when he turned out he was full on Tommy,no Irish at all.

wiggy · Post by **wiggy** » Tue 26 Feb, 2008 1:17 pm

cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: chameleon wrote: 'And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! 'Not wanting to encourage anyone, but from the voluminous research and records my wife has amassed, seems I might hve decendants from the Irish Mercenaries! i think half of bluddy leeds is descended from potato famine exiles..including me on my maternal grandads side.a lot moved to manchester,then to leeds during the cotton famine,which was caused by the american civil war... Got Irish on both sides,though i feel no particular afffinity with Ireland,unlike a lot who do find they had Irish ancestors.Had a good old laugh at the actor John Hurt on Who do you think you are.He was convinced that he was descended from Irish nobility,and could feel the Gaelic blood and the passion running through his veins and that he was more an Irishman than English.Pompous T**t looked an idiot when he turned out he was full on Tommy,no Irish at all. watched jeremy irons on same show,although to be fare,he was full of irish blood,he was a bit too romantic about it all for me.i thought 'mmmm! got irish blood'...he went into one,like he was descended from cuchulainn...'forget the tennyson,serve the venison jeremy!'

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 26 Feb, 2008 10:51 pm

wiggy wrote: cnosni wrote: wiggy wrote: chameleon wrote: 'And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! 'Not wanting to encourage anyone, but from the voluminous research and records my wife has amassed, seems I might hve decendants from the Irish Mercenaries! i think half of bluddy leeds is descended from potato famine exiles..including me on my maternal grandads side.a lot moved to manchester,then to leeds during the cotton famine,which was caused by the american civil war... Got Irish on both sides,though i feel no particular afffinity with Ireland,unlike a lot who do find they had Irish ancestors.Had a good old laugh at the actor John Hurt on Who do you think you are.He was convinced that he was descended from Irish nobility,and could feel the Gaelic blood and the passion running through his veins and that he was more an Irishman than English.Pompous T**t looked an idiot when he turned out he was full on Tommy,no Irish at all. watched jeremy irons on same show,although to be fare,he was full of irish blood,he was a bit too romantic about it all for me.i thought 'mmmm! got irish blood'...he went into one,like he was descended from cuchulainn...'forget the tennyson,serve the venison jeremy!' Yeah summat strange seems to come over those that discover they have Irish ancestry,a pal of mine who has been doing his tree and always knew about it has gone into some great detail but does not wax lyrical about it.Perhaps this is because as Yorkshire folk we already have a strong sense of belonging to a particular place,culture and way of speaking.Whereas a lot of others do not (not including Lancs and Yellow Bellies)and therefore probably jump at the chance to ataach themselves to a particular identity which they may well lack.

wayniac · Post by **wayniac** » Sat 22 Mar, 2008 9:16 pm

cnosni wrote: BIG N wrote: Sorry to show my ignorance, but as a newby to Leeds (only been here about 20 years ) can I just ask - where is the church in question please ?? Its on Ricmond Hill,overlooking town.It was/is what was called "The Bank",home to the many Irish immigrants who came to Leeds and many other northern cities following the potato famine.And yes,i had such immigrant ancestors,i can all hear you grown,not more Family history! I remember selling "Green Finals" around the back to backs and prefabs surrounding Mount St Marys. Just below the church they built a swimming pool, it was opposite the old East Ward Liberal club. My folks used to go the club every Saturday night and I used to go outside and climb up the wall of the swimming pool building. It had concrete squares as part of the relief on the surface and once you climbed high enough you could see the pool.I never saw the inside of Mount St Marys, my folks were C of E and never the twain met. I'm pretty sure there were mine workings in the area, a coal seam was found when they started excavating the area around the old Bella machine company, just down East Street from the Black Dog and Fish Hut.