Dialect/slang

[arry_awk]

Hi Chameleon.So sorry,it's ta'en me nearly a week toreply to your post abt Seacroft fever wards!Think I was just 7 when I got Scarlet fever. The wards then, (1937)were T and TU You graduated to TU about a week before beingdischarged if no complications had set in! Most I can rememberwas tea and bread and dripping for breakfast! Porridge if youwere lucky! One of the night sisters had a wind up gramophone,very tinny, and she used to play 'Rose Marie' selections sung by NelsonEddy and Jeannette McDonald! I still get 'flashbacks' when everthey get played on old fogies' radio progs!I remember the wards were always cold. "To kill the nasty germs" they told us! Don't remember open fires tho'. but there weresteam pipes (COLD) round the walls!Once I dropped an orange off the bed and scrambled out chasing it across the ward. Nurse caught me and I got a slapped bum!Had to stop in another fortnight because I caught bronchitis!Coming out,you had to ditch your nightshirt and go through adettol bath and put on fresh clothes that mum brought in.Quite an experience!cheersArry

[Bramley4woods]

cnosni wrote: Not sure if this has been mentioned before,but the term "while" being used instead of 'til/until is a Leeds peculiarity.eg a shops opening hours 9 while 5.30.I only came across this as being peculiar to Leeds when i read a weekly column by Rod McPhee in the YEP,so i asked our lass who is a scouser,and despite the fact that she has never mentioned it before she told me that it "dus er ed in" (Shes now fully Leeds in her dialect ,NO scouse at all!!) When she came to Leeds in 87 she did not know what the chuff anyone was on about,oh yeah dont worry its open while late!!Ive never thought of it before but replacing while instead of until makes no sense at all.Loiners Loiner Loiners Loiners Loiners!!!!     I can't see it being a Leeds thing because it was implemented in most of the early "Basic" computer language interpreters that came from East Coast USA !http://www.csidata.com/custserv/onlineh ... s606.htmEg while 09.00 18.00 [safe open]101: wend [safe locked]It's very interesting your lass reckoned it "dus er ed in" because it also fell out of favour in computing because there were other simpler and clearer ways of achieving the same object.

[chameleon]

I know this is an old one, but came across this in an account of the Pckfield Mine disaster in 1896:Now let us examine the sequence of events starting with that fateful Thursday morning, 30th April 1896. On the Wednesday the pit buzzer had sounded to signify that next day would be a "laik day" for most of the work force of 300 men. This in itself proved a most fortuitous coincidence, as a full complement of workers in the pit would have caused even greater loss of life than did occur.

[chameleon]

Hi arry! I lived close by so new the Hospital fairly well, and not least because I worked in the Medical Labs there for some time. I also lost a very good friend of mine there when he was just 19, a victim of Polio when he was a child - he spent a lot of his time on X Ward over the years. I wonder if when people these days become almost paranoid about what might befall their children if they are vaccinated for this and that, actually realise the suffering there was from the diseases which are rare now and easily preventable and treatable but were commonplace before vacines and modern antibiotics. I'm sure you'll recall that things like scarlet fever were quite regular ailments and almost always hospitalised - yes, it was quite usual to incinerate anything you had taken in with you upon leaving to prvent infection spreading. Do you remember the old boiler house chimney which stood at the bottom of the site? Tall. slender with a rim and round top looking like a bowler hat on a column. It was some time after its removal that I relaised it had been replaced together with the old coal-fired boilers. Much of the site which is now trees was the cinder heap from then.The boiler house also provided steam for the neighbouring Killingbeck hospital, the services running through a small tunnel under York Rosd and along a trench topped with slabs along side the access road. Always full of leaks with steam issuing out along it's length - far from an efficient system in todays terms!

[Trojan]

chameleon wrote: Hi arry! I lived close by so new the I also lost a very good friend of mine there when he was just 19, a victim of Polio when he was a child - he spent a lot of his time on X Ward over the years. I wonder if when people these days become almost paranoid about what might befall their children if they are vaccinated for this and that, actually realise the suffering there was from the diseases which are rare now and easily preventable and treatable but were commonplace before vacines and modern antibiotics. Well I grew up when polio was a threat, a girl on our street, only a year younger than me (I'd be about 10/11) got it and she survived, but she was wearing leg irons afterwards. Whether this lasted the rest of her life I couldn't say, but I know it frightened me.I also remember the smallpox outbreak in the sixties in Bradford, at the time I was working part time for Newboulds bakery as a van lad and I had to have a booster before I was allowed to go into Bradford.In this day and age I think we forget what huge killers and spoilers these diseases were. My mother used to tell the tale of her sister Harriet, with whom she shared a bed who died from the measles.

[cnosni]

Bramley4woods wrote: cnosni wrote: Not sure if this has been mentioned before,but the term "while" being used instead of 'til/until is a Leeds peculiarity.eg a shops opening hours 9 while 5.30.I only came across this as being peculiar to Leeds when i read a weekly column by Rod McPhee in the YEP,so i asked our lass who is a scouser,and despite the fact that she has never mentioned it before she told me that it "dus er ed in" (Shes now fully Leeds in her dialect ,NO scouse at all!!) When she came to Leeds in 87 she did not know what the chuff anyone was on about,oh yeah dont worry its open while late!!Ive never thought of it before but replacing while instead of until makes no sense at all.Loiners Loiner Loiners Loiners Loiners!!!!     I can't see it being a Leeds thing because it was implemented in most of the early "Basic" computer language interpreters that came from East Coast USA !http://www.csidata.com/custserv/onlineh ... s606.htmEg while 09.00 18.00 [safe open]101: wend [safe locked]It's very interesting your lass reckoned it "dus er ed in" because it also fell out of favour in computing because there were other simpler and clearer ways of achieving the same object. Well it may have been used in Basic programming,but apparently its not used in everyday verbal exchanges in the context we use it in in Leeds.Could be a question for Leeds ex pats.Any of you ex pats come across the used of the word "While" instead of til/until where you live now?Do any of you Leeds ex pats

[Si]

Another possible Leeds/WR thing is to drop the plural 's', as in "That'll be four pound," or "It's three mile from 'ere."

[Si]

As mentioned by Trojan on the Lost Chippies thread -"Fish and f'nerks." - where's that come from?

[arry_awk]

As far as I can remember,we used 'While' wherever welived in Leeds! Armley,Bramley, Woodhouse,Burley (Leeds 3). I can recall Mam saying, 'You just waitwhile I fetch yer Dad', or 'Yer'll ave to wait for yer breakfastwhile I get this weshing strungout across t'street!'or,'I'll just have a quick puff (smoke!) while t'bus arrives'!Part of everyday speech to us!How about,'Get us a pint in while I go to't bog!' I bet one or two otherlocal Loiners can remember using similar phrases?Arry

[Si]

All the time, Arry. Now...give us a minute while I think of some examples...........