A very old Establishment down the Skulls head yard (Part 2)

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Sat 22 Mar, 2014 8:19 pm

uncle mick wrote: cnosni wrote: uncle mick wrote: Planning application for a public house on the site of The Crown & Fleece .......... or is it next door ?Open up the heritage statement on the link for pictures of the cellars etchttp://tinyurl.com/k5w7bnq Looks like the whole of the old pub Mick.Does anyone recall a while back that a guy was on this thread asking about the history of the Crown and Fleece as he was possibly going to be opening it again as a pub. It was Kirk Gate on this threadhttp://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messages.aspx ... essage=100& again http://www.secretleeds.com/forum/Messag ... eadID=3513 That's the one; thanks uncle mick. And here's what I was referring to: Kirk Gate wrote: Si,Thanks for the correction ( I'm suffering from information overload!) I'd forgotten about the Dyson's sign on the gable and not put two and two together about the skulls!However, the best bit on your post is the Dyson link with Lower Dunsforth as this family are known to me but I was not aware of their connection with Crown Street!Now looking forward to a very interesting evening in the Angler to discuss the return of the sculls.Many thanks for this gem of info!Kirk Gate Kirk Gate has vektor listed as his website on his profile. Let's hope he comes back with more info for us.

Steve Jones · Post by **Steve Jones** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 1:09 pm

If the pub gets permission and goes ahead,I have a proposal for Secret leeds.It is that we approach the current owners of the site where the skulls are and offer to buy them.We then present them to the pub to be placed inside somewhere with a suitable plaque recording their mythical story and who donated them.I am personally willing to stump up towards it if others think it viable? Edited to remove figure<G>.

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 1:18 pm

Steve Jones wrote: If the pub gets permission and goes ahead,I have a proposal for Secret leeds.It is that we approach the current owners of the site where the skulls are and offer to buy them.We then present them to the pub to be placed inside somewhere with a suitable plaque recording their mythical story and who donated them.I am personally willing to stump up towards it if others think it viable? I like the idea Steve and will support it, but perhaps better not mention figures in public lest the owners see it and adjust any price accordingly!

TABBYCAT · Post by **TABBYCAT** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 5:07 pm

@ChameleonE-mail sent.

jim · Post by **jim** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 5:17 pm

Happy to contribute a (smaller) sum if this takes off.

Post by **dsco** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 7:50 pm

This is a brilliant idea - I'm happy for SL itself to contribute cash, and could cover the whole cost for them if the price isn't too crazy.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 9:53 pm

This is great news, but I really hope the owners are going to revive the historical and unique 'Crown and Fleece' name.Regarding the skulls people may recall (details on part 1 of this thread) that I spoke to the owner of the skulls. He was adamant that he wanted the skulls left where they were - god knows why. appealing to his better nature, and indeed applying any logic or reason, was a waste of time.

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 11:19 pm

drapesy wrote: This is great news, but I really hope the owners are going to revive the historical and unique 'Crown and Fleece' name.Regarding the skulls people may recall (details on part 1 of this thread) that I spoke to the owner of the skulls. He was adamant that he wanted the skulls left where they were - god knows why. appealing to his better nature, and indeed applying any logic or reason, was a waste of time. Yeah i remember that Drapesy, their about turn was dramatic to say the least

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 24 Mar, 2014 11:29 pm

Started the ball rolling, have contacted Vektor Management, see what they have to say

String o' beads · Post by **String o' beads** » Tue 25 Mar, 2014 12:15 am

Yes I remember that drapesy; it was very disappointing. I've always been of the opinion that the people at Ion Dyson realised there may be some monetary value in the skulls for there could be no other reason to hang on to them. Having said that, I would have had them taken off that building and put into safekeeping if that was the case. Whether they were entitled to remove them from their original site is another matter but we have to deal with the situation as it is and an offer to purchase might suit all parties.Artefacts are worth what people are prepared to pay for them-there's no Glass's Guide for stone skulls! I don't suppose anyone is acquainted with anyone who might hazard an educated guess? Cheers for your efforts cnosni.