Burley Bar Stone - and the rest

mark1978 · Post by **mark1978** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 11:43 am

Cheers

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 8:16 pm

There are so many arguments developed here about the location and all well supported.As I think I posted very early on, my memory is of seeing in the wall at the top of the steps leading up from the bus station, albeit that I thought I recalled it on the opposite pillar to the one in the brickie pic, and remember then investigating its purpose. That ill have been in the 70's.The quote Mark has included suggests it was situated at No 104. I think the numbering convention is that they start at the end which can be described as closest to the city centre. That would suggest that the wood-cladded end could be No 100 with the distant end (next to the café) being 104 where the picture suggest the stone was incorporated.

Post by **mhoulden** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 8:40 pm

I found this photo of the old bus station in 1980 without the plywood, and there's no bar stone there: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffordstead/5398409690/. I had a quick look round the bus station today, and the panels on the curved bit seem to be reinforced concrete as there was a bit of rusty rebar sticking out. I wondered if the stone might be on the car park/bus bay side of the building but I couldn't see anything. It looks like the car park is closed so it's easy to see what's there.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 8:51 pm

mhoulden wrote: I found this photo of the old bus station in 1980 without the plywood, and there's no bar stone there I found that photo too. The only thing is I used it to show that the plywood 'was' there in the 70's Those were the same plywood boards in the 70's right through to the 80's looking at the first top two photos. But looking at today's google image you can see those ply boards have since been replaced. The ply sheets are longer today, and there are less of them. There is also a new access door or panel. I have yet to see a photo from any era when those plywood boards weren't there on the corner. The mystery deepens

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 9:36 pm

chameleon wrote: There are so many arguments developed here about the location and all well supported.As I think I posted very early on, my memory is of seeing in the wall at the top of the steps leading up from the bus station, albeit that I thought I recalled it on the opposite pillar to the one in the brickie pic, and remember then investigating its purpose. That ill have been in the 70's.The quote Mark has included suggests it was situated at No 104. I think the numbering convention is that they start at the end which can be described as closest to the city centre. That would suggest that the wood-cladded end could be No 100 with the distant end (next to the café) being 104 where the picture suggest the stone was incorporated. Hi chameleonHaving a check when I was passing by later on this morning the door at the premises on Vicar Lane at the Lady Lane junction is marked 102-104. I think a number of us must have been looking around there recently.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 10:19 pm

Copyright John Kaye.I've managed to find this photo taken in 1957 when the old buildings were still next to the bus station before the Hellenic cafe building was built. No sign of the elusive bar stone yet.What is interesting here is the bus station seemed to have been built next door to the Old Crown And Anchor pub. The Brick fascia where it had the pub name was demolished and it's now called 'Preston's' So my initial thoughts that the cladding on the Brickie laying the bar stone could have belonged to the pub was I think correct. Wasn't Preston's a chemist at one time? Perhaps we'll be able to find some more info from this name and new find.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 10:34 pm

I can vaguely remember crappy old buildings opposite the bus station late 60/early 70's. There was 'The Joke Shop' on vicar lane - Uncle Mick, dust down that directory?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 11:01 pm

Were getting warmer Looking at the map the bar stone 'should' be outside the Metal Merchant somewhere. c1906. North Street, east side with the Crown and Anchor Inn. Showing Leeds old leadworks (part of old workhouse)and A Caldwell, cycles. Street directory of Leeds 1817 shows James Pickles of this inn. His wife was Elizabeth nee Wilson. These were my ancestors. After his death his second wife Sarah is there. She died in 1830 and I have copy of her Will. A son William, took over the place. There are Memorials of the inn at West Yorkshire Land Registry, Wakefield.

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 11:13 pm

This might sound crazy but for the sake of my sanity...Look again at the Clifford Stead photo here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cliffordst ... 09690/Zoom in as far as possible on the small brick wall at the top of Lady Lane - the waist-high wall in 3 sections to which the Lady Lane street sign is attached. Look at the left end of the wall, which would be facing Vicar Lane; can anyone else see something which looks familiar built into that end, or am I just hallucinating?When you've tried that, take a look at the same wall on this picture:http://tinyurl.com/nj4mnkdIs it just me?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 01 Mar, 2014 11:41 pm

I've been there, done it Bruno Think I've blown every photo up massive and lightened them to get a good look.You can see the photo you link to in question remastered full size herehttp://tinyurl.com/poe6qhcI can't see anything at all on that small wall, or any other part of brickwork either