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Posted: Thu 10 Apr, 2014 10:29 pm
by Phill_dvsn
I'm a little undecided how easy or hard this question might be. To make sure it isn't too easy it's a two part question.1. Is guess the location.2. Does anyone know what happened to the wall where it is damaged? No bonus points for any answers relating to the man on the image though
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:12 am
by jim
(Sings) "The runaway train came over the hill (Neville) and she blew, she blew"
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:14 am
by Phill_dvsn
He got it spot on! Well done Jim The actual date of the crash is a little vague. It's documented being 1950, 1953, and 1958. Here's one recollection of it.The accident was blamed on kids who set it in motion. Another explanation was that it was parked up with the cylinder cocks closed. The lad looking after the engines was asked about the engine where it was and he jokingly said he had taken it home, if I remember rightly his name was George Preston. It was said the Marsh Lane signalman spotted it running unmanned and switched the points to divert it off the main line - otherwise it would have ended up in Leeds City Station.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:16 am
by Phill_dvsn
You can see the actual slant of the train where the wheels went through the wall.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:18 am
by Phill_dvsn
A good idea of the location.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:20 am
by Phill_dvsn
The run away engine would have been diverted into the right hand sidings by an alert signalman no doubt.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:38 am
by Phill_dvsn
I'm not sure if the warehouse, or what buildings were still standing when the crash happened. This is the 1951 aerial photo above the crash site.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:45 am
by jim
The machinery in Marsh Lane yard was my responsibility from around 1963-67 Phill. If you enlarge the photo of the yard and sidings, the gallows frame of "my" hydraulic accumulator can be seen above the long footbridge about central to the larger warehouse. To its left, in the low level yard was the hydraulic engine house. Before I took over the job of looking after it, the hydraulic engines had all been painted all over black. As there was often not much work needed doing, I carefully scraped the paint off all the brass fittings, and polished them up. The foreman told me I was barmy, but no-one could ever accuse me of neglecting them!When the plant was shut down, the scrapmen tried to lift the watertank down from the wall inside the engine house on their JCB. It rolled down the fork arms and killed the driver.....
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:48 am
by jim
The buildings to the right of the largest warehouse were no longer in place in 1958. I know that the yard was quite badly bombed in WW2, and think it likely that they succumbed then. The last pic shows the accumulator and engine house very well.
Posted: Fri 11 Apr, 2014 12:55 am
by Phill_dvsn
The aerial photo is 1951 Jim. So I'm trying to work out how the track layout would be when the crash happened. The tracks seem to curve a bit sharply for a loco to reach the end at speed and not over turn on the curves. The long bridge has been replaced with a short one that no one uses any more. It's very overgrown and deserted around there now, or at least it was a few years ago.