Old tram to Leeds-Guess where.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sat 10 Nov, 2012 3:42 pm

Leodian wrote: For interest I moved a little to the right of the view in the last link to see what the old White Cloth Hall site looked like then. This is the link to the Google Street view I got:- http://goo.gl/maps/gjyEkI am wondering what the wording states? The first bit seems to be 'Manchester' then a word that seems to start with a 'W''. It is what the final word is that intrigues me. I am probably seeing a word that is not acctually there but it does seem to be 'Semen' though I doubt that it is. Very red-faced me if it is not that word! Ha ha - I think it's Warehousemen, although I'll never look at that word in the same way again

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 10 Nov, 2012 3:54 pm

Cardiarms wrote: Leodian wrote: For interest I moved a little to the right of the view in the last link to see what the old White Cloth Hall site looked like then. This is the link to the Google Street view I got:- http://goo.gl/maps/gjyEkI am wondering what the wording states? The first bit seems to be 'Manchester' then a word that seems to start with a 'W''. It is what the final word is that intrigues me. I am probably seeing a word that is not acctually there but it does seem to be 'Semen' though I doubt that it is. Very red-faced me if it is not that word! Ha ha - I think it's Warehousemen, although I'll never look at that word in the same way again Cheers Cardiarms. It seems obvious to me now! I'm suitably

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 10 Nov, 2012 4:51 pm

[quotenick="Leodian"] Cardiarms wrote: Leodian wrote: Cheers Cardiarms. It seems obvious to me now! I'm suitably Well you never know Leo.10cc were from Manchester too

Si · Post by Si » Sat 10 Nov, 2012 5:09 pm

Leodian wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Si wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: For some reason I also thought it could be down Kirkgate looking towards the rail viaduct. The buildings look very similar down there, anyone else think so?http://goo.gl/maps/Mbd01 That was my first thought, Phill. The edge of the building on the right reminded me of the "quoins" on the old White Cloth Hall. Your spot on Si, it's almost a perfect match.http://goo.gl/maps/zKpr5 For interest I moved a little to the right of the view in the last link to see what the old White Cloth Hall site looked like then. This is the link to the Google Street view I got:- http://goo.gl/maps/gjyEkI am wondering what the wording states? The first bit seems to be 'Manchester' then a word that seems to start with a 'W''. It is what the final word is that intrigues me. I am probably seeing a word that is not acctually there but it does seem to be 'Semen' though I doubt that it is. Very red-faced me if it is not that word! ISTR that the signage belonged to this business. Wasn't it Manchester cloth, or summat similar?Notice how the huge Gelder sign has been "airbrushed" from the sky, leaving the brackets somewhat truncated.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 10 Nov, 2012 5:16 pm

That's strange, they haven't updated that google street view. The Cloth Hall was of course flattened, and the image date on street view is still 2008.Most of what I've looked at has been updated.If you look here you can see it's a 2012 imagehttp://goo.gl/maps/tn39wYet if you look round the corner along Greek street where someone spotted the google car a few weeks ago, it's still the 2008 scene.

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Sun 11 Nov, 2012 1:21 am

Phill_dvsn wrote: That's strange, they haven't updated that google street view. The Cloth Hall was of course flattened, and the image date on street view is still 2008.Most of what I've looked at has been updated.If you look here you can see it's a 2012 imagehttp://goo.gl/maps/tn39wYet if you look round the corner along Greek street where someone spotted the google car a few weeks ago, it's still the 2008 scene. Done it again Phill lad......! caught the googley guys out of course !mmmm...

simong · Post by **simong** » Sun 11 Nov, 2012 10:27 am

Phill_dvsn wrote: That's strange, they haven't updated that google street view. The Cloth Hall was of course flattened, and the image date on street view is still 2008.Most of what I've looked at has been updated.If you look here you can see it's a 2012 imagehttp://goo.gl/maps/tn39wYet if you look round the corner along Greek street where someone spotted the google car a few weeks ago, it's still the 2008 scene. Either the last run was just along main streets or there's some kind of priority updating going on. I looked at Farsley Town Street the other day and saw that the section with all the shops is now 2012 but head towards Stanningley Road and it becomes 2008 again. Interestingly the satellite views are all more recent.

jim · Post by **jim** » Sun 11 Nov, 2012 11:28 am

Phill_dvsn wrote: A street all too familiar to any Leeds loiner. I'm just wondering how recognisable it is considering how it looks today?So anyone any idea where those old shops used to be?I've blanked out the tram destination to not narrow down the route it was taking, and one of the shop names, as a quick search on google reveals all The street isn't good enough, you have to guess the exact spot the photo was taken! One of the shops hidden behind the London Feltham Tram was that of Coopers, grocers and provision merchants. I remember it very clearly as my mother used to do her weekly "shop" for home delivery there in the early 1950s. It was convenient being on a route she could take to get home from her post as a teacher at Princess Field school in Holbeck. The shop appeared to sell everything, and had that marvellous smell of the period when nothing was shrink wrapped or packaged in any way. Cooked meats hanging from the rafters, open biscuit tins, and great lumps of cheese and butter. Loose sugar to be bagged up in blue bags to your requirements, and flour in muslin bags........and they had one of those wonderful overhead cash transporters. The whole place was enthralling for an eight year old lad.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sun 11 Nov, 2012 12:55 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: You can just see the Dalex sign in the shop window. I love these old adverts...And here is the bigger.....I find Briggate to be a funny street. I never think of this bottom end as Briggate. I always have to check the online map to see what it's called, likewise I feel the same about New Briggate at the top end. The only part that feels like ''proper'' Briggate is the part in between Duncan Street and Eastgate/Headrow.It's funny how you can live in a city all your life, and know it very well, but some street names always seem to catch you out. -------------------------------------------------Phill, excellent W&W thread, was out + missed.Ref New Briggate [see image]1847 OS Map plan of "North Town End" area "as amended by C A Lupton".The amendment are the dotted lines which roughly marry up with Briggate and take a gentle right/NE arc to North St.This neatly avoided St John's Church whilst allowing redevelopment of their (Lupton) Cloth Works, now the Grand Theatre / Arcade etc.Note the 2 reservoirs.

James · Post by **James** » Mon 12 Nov, 2012 11:22 am

Weaver to Wearer must have been somewhere near the bottom of the hierarchy in the tailoring trade. I once bought a suit at one of their shops - which must have been one of the cheapest in town that had a made to measure department. The cloth turned out to be so rough and 'tickly' that I had to get rid of the trousers after about a week. Jeans have been popular for so long, that if you talk about the days when 'everyman' wore a two piece or even a three piece suit you sound like Methuselah.