Sitting on your asp all day-but where?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 15 May, 2012 10:40 pm

Tasa wrote: You are generally so precise with distances, I took it at face value!At one point, I had Lawrence Oates living in Burley Yes I know, I could have measured the thing to the exact yard on google earth, but bright whizzos like yourself would have done likewise I thought the clues were pretty obvious, but it still took a while to get, all good fun

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Wed 16 May, 2012 8:33 am

tilly wrote: Were is this just to give you something to think about while looking for the dragons.Im sure you will know this phill.The dragons have been found but can you find this?

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Wed 16 May, 2012 8:34 am

This.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Wed 16 May, 2012 10:33 am

tilly wrote: This. No one any ideas with this one? We may need to give some clues Tilly

Si · Post by Si » Wed 16 May, 2012 10:47 am

tilly wrote: This. Armley Industrial Museum?Kirkstall Forge?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Wed 16 May, 2012 11:06 am

Si wrote: tilly wrote: This. Armley Industrial Museum? Yep, same place as the Lucy box And this also stands with it. I'd love to know where they both came from.

Si · Post by Si » Wed 16 May, 2012 11:15 am

I thought I'd seen it on here before, and it was in some sort of industrial context, hence the guesswork.The stone carving is very interesting. Was there some sort of guilds building in Leeds at one time? The two blokes look like they may have something to do with gold or silver smithing, with the brazier, hammer and small crucible. Goldsmiths' Guild?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Wed 16 May, 2012 11:38 am

Si wrote: I thought I'd seen it on here before, and it was in some sort of industrial context, hence the guesswork.The stone carving is very interesting. Was there some sort of guilds building in Leeds at one time? The two blokes look like they may have something to do with gold or silver smithing, with the brazier, hammer and small crucible. Goldsmiths' Guild? There are all sorts of weird and wonderful stuff lying about the museum outside, I wouldn't say it was exhibited or documented, It's just 'there' and if it hasn't been engulfed by bushes and trees feel free to browse. Someone said on here they loved the museum for all it's 'eccentricities'' and I can think of no better word for it. Go early morning on a Saturday and you can feel like your the last person on earth. I jumped over a barrier and headed off into the bushes and found the long forgotten train and train shed. There are some huge gate posts dumped round the back with some huge rusty boilers, I'd bet those gateposts came from the same building as these carvings. Shame they aren't documented, but that's just one of the mysteries of Armley Mills museum

Si · Post by Si » Wed 16 May, 2012 11:51 am

Maybe Tilly's royal coat of arms once adorned a government establishment of some kind, like a registry office? There's a similar old one in Skipton. It's probably Victorian (or even earlier?), as the crown on the top is a queen's crown (concave top, as opposed to a king's crown with a convex top.) These differences can also be seen on post boxes of different reigns.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Wed 16 May, 2012 1:35 pm

Si wrote: Maybe Tilly's royal coat of arms once adorned a government establishment of some kind, like a registry office? There's a similar old one in Skipton. It's probably Victorian (or even earlier?), as the crown on the top is a queen's crown (concave top, as opposed to a king's crown with a convex top.) These differences can also be seen on post boxes of different reigns. The info I can find Si.Royal Coat of ArmsThe shield is quartered, depicting in the first and fourth quarters the three lions passant guardant of England; in the second, the rampant lion and double tressure fleury-counter-fleury of Scotland; and in the third, a harp for Ireland.The crest is a lion statant guardant wearing the imperial crown, itself on another representation of that crown.The dexter supporter is a likewise crowned lion, symbolizing England; the sinister, a unicorn, symbolising Scotland. According to legend a free unicorn was considered a very dangerous beast; therefore the heraldic unicorn is chained, as were both supporting unicorns in the Royal coat of arms of Scotland.The coat features both the motto of English monarchs Dieu et mon droit (God and my right) and the motto of the Order of the Garter, Honi soit qui mal y pense (Shamed be he who thinks ill of it) on a representation of the Garter behind the shield.The official heraldic description of the Royal Arms is as follows:Quarterly, first and fourth Gules three lions passant gardant in pale Or armed and langued Azure (for England), second quarter Or a lion rampant within a double tressure flory-counter-flory Gules (for Scotland), third quarter Azure a harp Or stringed Argent (for Ireland), the whole surrounded by the Garter; for a Crest, upon the Royal helm the imperial crown Proper, thereon a lion statant gardant Or imperially crowned Proper; for Supporters, dexter a lion rampant gardant Or crowned as the Crest, sinister a unicorn Argent armed, crined and unguled Proper, gorged with a coronet Or composed of crosses patée and fleurs de lis a chain affixed thereto passing between the forelegs and reflexed over the back also Or. Motto 'Dieu et mon Droit' in the compartment below the shield, with the Union rose, shamrock and thistle engrafted on the same stem.