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gchq
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Cookridge 1960

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It's not much to go on, but does anyone recognise this location?


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Re: Cookridge 1960

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Could this be the tree in the first image https://goo.gl/maps/TFHFZsYVwu5jquGE8 . The house behind the tree would have to have been built after and looks like it has. There would be a single storey extension to the left side of the first semi but given some other minor alterations those first 3 semis along that street look like the image and the semi detached bungalow at the far right looks identical to now (well July 2019).

There are plenty of bungalows in the area but none that resemble the one in the other images and much of the outskirtsof Cookridge still looks out on to fields as per your last image so they would back then.
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Are we identifying the semi detached houses or the bungalows?

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Are we identifying the semi detached houses or the bungalows?

The view of the semi-detached houses is, I believe, from the living room window of the bungalow.

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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Could this be the tree in the first image
The closest I can find to that building style is on Tinshill Lane. Everything east of Otley Old Road appears to be of a much newer design.

The most unique features are the three semi-detached houses in a row, the end one with an extension - and at the other end a single story building that resembles a meeting hall of some description. The view you captured is soooo close, three houses in a row with a single story building - but the single story building in 1960 doesn't have a sloping roof at the end. The one with an extension has a building directly behind it

I have tried a virtual drive around using Google StreetView and looking at an Ordnance Survey Map (that annoyingly intersects at Cookridge into four maps) from 1967 - but it's baffling me

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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I am struggling to recognise the locations. One of the problems, these days, is what and where is Cookridge (which may sound a stupid question).

Cookridge village used to be a small village within the Leeds city boundary in the north west of Leeds. I would suggest that it was originally bordered, roughly, by Cookridge Lane, Smithy Lane, Green Lane and Tinshill Road. The ‘village’ had Adel to the north (a mile away along Holt Lane). Tinshill to the south (a few hundred yards away along Cookridge Lane/Otley Old Road to the highest point in Leeds). Horsforth to the west via Moseley Woods and the railway line – originally in the West Riding area (about a mile away). Ireland Wood was an area further south, along Otley Old Road, than Tinshill. Lawnswood was roughly north west of the Leeds Outer Ring Road and stretched along Otley Road towards Adel.

Along with my parents, I moved to a brand new house in Moseley Wood Avenue, Cookridge, in 1958. This was at the start of the estate built by ‘Briggs' (the builder – who actually lived on the site). At that time, Green Lane only extended as far as where the Kirkwood estate is located (built by Ashton and later by Briggs). Green Lane ended there, at Kirkwood Drive, and there was nothing but Moseley Woods down to Wood Hill Road (towards the bottom of Tinshill Road).

Even the buses were number 33 to ‘Cookridge’ (which in 1958 turned around at Cookridge Lane/Holt Lane). Number 36 went to ‘Tinshill’ (which turned left off Otley Old Road at Tinshill Lane and went through the Tinshill council estates). Number 30 went to ‘Ireland Wood’ (which went from Otley Road, left down the Outer Ring Road and then right along Spen Lane and through the council estates (Luttrells, Ivesons and Raynels) on either side of Otley Old Road). Number 1 went to ’Lawnswood’ and terminated along Otley Road at Adel. In those days, the Holt Park estate did not exist. Buses 1, 30, 33 and 36 all travelled from Leeds along Woodhouse Lane/Headingley Lane/Otley Road as far as the Outer Ring Road, thereafter they took different routes..

The point of me mentioning all this stuff is that nowadays the terms ‘Ireland Wood’ and ‘Tinshill’ appear to have disappeared and anything north of the Outer Ring Road, according to many estate agents selling houses in the area, refer to the whole area as ‘Cookridge’.

There were also a couple of anomalies – Cookridge Hospital was not at Cookridge but was along Hospital Lane at Ireland Wood. However it is fair to say that in the early 1900’s, the hospitals (Cookridge and Ida) were isolated in countryside, towards Cookridge village. Cookridge Water Tower was never located at Cookridge but at Tinshill.

Going back to house building in Cookridge around 1958, a new estate was built between Smithy Lane/Cookridge Avenue/Cookridge Lane and many bungalows were built, besides houses. Green Lane was extended, in bits, over the years, past Kirkwood Drive and eventually to link up with Wood Hill Road, towards the bottom of Tinshill Road. Many, many houses and bungalows were built by many builders, including Myton, on both sides of Green Lane. Moseley Woods have disappeared and builders have, recently, started to build in the old ‘Green Belt’ area between Moseley Wood Gardens and the railway line.

Going back to the original post and the photographs, as I have already said, I don’t recognise the houses, bungalows or the area.

I wondered if it was possible to supply any further information or the names of any of the occupants, which may make it possible to trace via Ancestry or Telephone Directories, in order to identify the locations.

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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Even the buses were number 33 to ‘Cookridge’ (which in 1958 turned around at Cookridge Lane/Holt Lane). Number 36 went to ‘Tinshill’ (which turned left off Otley Old Road at Tinshill Lane and went through the Tinshill council estates).
You just brought back another memory. I used to catch the number 56 bus from the terminus to Leeds Grammar School. There was always a long queue and the bus was always an old one and full of stale smoke. If I let that bus go and waited a number 36 would pull in and change to number 56. This was always the newer AEC bus, was almost empty for the full journey and no stale smoke :-)

There are lots of other interesting points you have raised and I want to reply to them shortly

Thank you for your detailed reply

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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The first line of the first post 'Cookridge 1960' -how is the date and location related to the photographs. 3 years ago we spent weeks looking for a site in Leeds that turned out to be in Hull1

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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warringtonrhino wrote:
Mon 10 Aug, 2020 2:26 pm
The first line of the first post 'Cookridge 1960' -how is the date and location related to the photographs. 3 years ago we spent weeks looking for a site in Leeds that turned out to be in Hull1
My parents moved from Essex to Cookridge in 1960 - and started divorce proceedings the same year. Whilst I cannot be 100% certain I am quite sure this is the bungalow they bought in 1960 and must have been 1960 - I have photographs in Essex from August 1959 and the Decree Nisi was granted in January 1961 ** and phone records showing my father had moved to Garforth in 1961. I would have have five/six years old

The general style of the building certainly suggests that it IS Cookridge

** Some confusion as HMCTS show the divorce as March 1961, Ancestry show the marriage of my father to Stepmother as January 1961 - either way the photos must be from 1960. I seem to remember I went to Far Headingly School. Would that make sense for the area?

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Re: Cookridge 1960

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Quick reply re your school -------- It is possible that people living in Cookridge may have sent a child to Far Headingley Primary School on Otley Road just below where the filter beds were (now posh housing). If the parents worked in Leeds then they might have dropped off their children en route to work. There was a junior school built at the top of Tinshill Drive called Cookridge County Primary School (although it was at Tinshill), which I think may have been there in 1960 but I am not sure. Otherwise, the nearest primary schools were at Iveson House School on the west side of Otley Old Road and Ireland Wood School on the east side of Otley Old Road. These schools were built on large council estates. I don't recall a school in 'Cookridge Village' until Green Lane was extended and a new school was built called Cookridge Holy Trinity C of E Primary School. This school is located on Green Lane between Moseley Wood Drive and Moseley Wood Green. I bought a house in Cookridge, at 12 Green Lane, in 1973 where I lived until 1977, before I moved to Otley. Whilst at Cookridge, my eldest son started school at Cookridge County Primary School in Tinshill Drive in 1974. I can't remember when the 'new' Holy Trinity School was built in Green Lane. I would add that Far Headingley School was about 3 to 4 miles from Cookridge (I think that it is a private nursery, nowadays).

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