SecretLeeds - History, culture and architecture in Leeds

Hi. I was looking through some old b/w photo's of Leeds and surrounding areas on the Francis Firth site last night.There are also old maps and viewer's "memories" in which someone mentioned "Harts" in Leeds. I have never heard of the shop or remember it. Just thought I'd mention the site as the old pics are worth a look.Caron.I mean FRITH!!!    

My in-laws have a family name entirely due to duff spelling by an ancestor. I reckon frith oughto be a firth,RegardsJgoon [edit]My current fave leeds site is http://dewi.ca/trains/leeds/index.htmlBy Dewi Williams. I think it is really cute that he says:-"..During my army training at Catterick, I found that there were special buses run after dismissal at noon on Saturdays to various northern cities, returning on Sunday nights. I was able to go to several cities, and Leeds in particular I visited several times because of its wonderful tram system. Most of my time in Leeds was spent actually on trams, riding around all the routes that I could. It was an interesting city, with such a variation: solid buildings downtown, narrow streets of back-to-back houses further out, the notorious Quarry Hill flats, new and old suburbs.."His pics are early 1950's.Another good 'private' one is http://www.maggieblanck.com/Land/Photos ... lttfnBryan Fish + Chips tonight. Think I can feel a Jumbo Haddock coming on    

Don't know if you'll see this, Joong, but why was the Middleton tram/bus called, Middleton BOGIE??/Thanks!

There are some real tram / bus experts on here who'll know better than me but I understand it is to do with the undercarriage /running gear.Think they still call that bit of trains the bogieThink SIG of switzerland are good at them.

A bogie is one four wheeled unit beneath a tram or railway carriage/wagon, where such a vehicle is carried on two such units.A tram which had only four wheels in one frame was said to be equipped with a "truck." Many cities, including Leeds, had large numbers of "bogey cars" and the "Middleton bogies" were a class of magnificent luxurious fast cars built especially for the Middleton line through the woods from Parkside to the Water Tower. Incidentally, prior to being a passenger line (route 12), the railway was originally built to carry materials for the new estate.

BLAKEY wrote: A bogie is one four wheeled unit beneath a tram or railway carriage/ We mustn't forget the BO-BO's, A1A's, and the monsters of them all the 1Co Co1's. We can get really technical here Jim

Thank you, BLAKEY

Phill_dvsn wrote: BLAKEY wrote: A bogie is one four wheeled unit beneath a tram or railway carriage/ We mustn't forget the BO-BO's, A1A's, and the monsters of them all the 1Co Co1's. We can get really technical here Jim What are those Phill? (Must be because I've always been a steam 'ead!)

jim wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: BLAKEY wrote: A bogie is one four wheeled unit beneath a tram or railway carriage/ We mustn't forget the BO-BO's, A1A's, and the monsters of them all the 1Co Co1's. We can get really technical here Jim What are those Phill? (Must be because I've always been a steam 'ead!) It's the wheel arrangements on the bogies, all depending on how many wheels, and what are driving or just weight carrying pony wheels. A bit more info herehttp://www.railway-technical.com/whlarr.shtml

Phill_dvsn wrote: jim wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: BLAKEY wrote: A bogie is one four wheeled unit beneath a tram or railway carriage/ We mustn't forget the BO-BO's, A1A's, and the monsters of them all the 1Co Co1's. We can get really technical here Jim What are those Phill? (Must be because I've always been a steam 'ead!) It's the wheel arrangements on the bogies, all depending on how many wheels, and what are driving or just weight carrying pony wheels. A bit more info herehttp://www.railway-technical.com/whlarr.shtml Hi Phill. My comment was an attempt at a mildly amusing reference to my enthusiasms and sympathies being for the pre-diesel age, not a lack of knowledge. Sorry if it fell flat.