Pity Poor Tyersal (& Drighlington)

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Sat 12 Nov, 2011 1:07 pm

The residents of Tyersal are revolting - and I don't blame 'em.Tyersal's always been "neither one thing nor t'other". AFAIK the only vehicular access is via Dick Lane, Bradford, and the bus service into the village was always provided by Bradford City Transport in those happy days before privatisation. Hebble's service from Leeds to Halifax ran along Dick Lane, but left a lengthy walk for Tyersal residents.I attended Pudsey Grammar School in Richardshaw Lane, and quite a few of my contemporaries lived in Tyersal. The poor so n'sos had a lousy journey to school. Walk from Tyersal village down to Dick Lane. Wait for Hebble bus to Stanningley Bottom. Walk up Richardshaw Lane. They were frequently late due to bus timings and delays, but they received no mercy from the prefects on late duty.Why was all this nonsensical inconvenience in place? Because Tyersal is part of Pudsey. No doubt this dates back to the Domesday Book and beyond, not to mention parish boundaries and such. (Some kids attending PGS lived in Armley. Goodness only knows how they finished up in the tender care of the West Riding Education Committee whilst being resident in a County Borough with better (I very much hope) facilities).But the current revolt is all due to economics. Tyersal residents pay council tax to Leeds, but have a Bradford postcode. This is seriously bad news - and I speak as a Bradford resident. The postcode for Tyersal is BD4, which, although not the worst for large numbers of uninsured drivers (BD3 is the nation's worst at 57% uninsured), it's still regarded as well dodgy by insurance companies. Bradford residents' high car insurance premiums have recently been the subject of a parliamentary debate.The other big issue is property prices. Again, BD4 ranks way below LS28 as a desirable postcode, hence depressing house prices. Now, I'm not in favour of high house prices, but neither am I in favour of postcode anomalies such as this. I don't know what difference it makes to such as healthcare provision.A similar situation exists in Drighlington, a Leeds district lumbered with a BD11 postcode. I would have thought it not beyond the wit of local authorities and the Post Office to devise a sensible scheme whereby postcodes truly reflect the local authority boundaries. I wish the Tyersal residents well in their campaign to be re-located. But I'm not holding my breath!

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Sat 12 Nov, 2011 6:44 pm

Uno Hoo wrote: The residents of Tyersal are revolting - and I don't blame 'em.Tyersal's always been "neither one thing nor t'other". AFAIK the only vehicular access is via Dick Lane, Bradford, and the bus service into the village was always provided by Bradford City Transport in those happy days before privatisation. Hebble's service from Leeds to Halifax ran along Dick Lane, but left a lengthy walk for Tyersal residents.I attended Pudsey Grammar School in Richardshaw Lane, and quite a few of my contemporaries lived in Tyersal. The poor so n'sos had a lousy journey to school. Walk from Tyersal village down to Dick Lane. Wait for Hebble bus to Stanningley Bottom. Walk up Richardshaw Lane. They were frequently late due to bus timings and delays, but they received no mercy from the prefects on late duty.Why was all this nonsensical inconvenience in place? Because Tyersal is part of Pudsey. No doubt this dates back to the Domesday Book and beyond, not to mention parish boundaries and such. (Some kids attending PGS lived in Armley. Goodness only knows how they finished up in the tender care of the West Riding Education Committee whilst being resident in a County Borough with better (I very much hope) facilities).But the current revolt is all due to economics. Tyersal residents pay council tax to Leeds, but have a Bradford postcode. This is seriously bad news - and I speak as a Bradford resident. The postcode for Tyersal is BD4, which, although not the worst for large numbers of uninsured drivers (BD3 is the nation's worst at 57% uninsured), it's still regarded as well dodgy by insurance companies. Bradford residents' high car insurance premiums have recently been the subject of a parliamentary debate.The other big issue is property prices. Again, BD4 ranks way below LS28 as a desirable postcode, hence depressing house prices. Now, I'm not in favour of high house prices, but neither am I in favour of postcode anomalies such as this. I don't know what difference it makes to such as healthcare provision.A similar situation exists in Drighlington, a Leeds district lumbered with a BD11 postcode. I would have thought it not beyond the wit of local authorities and the Post Office to devise a sensible scheme whereby postcodes truly reflect the local authority boundaries. I wish the Tyersal residents well in their campaign to be re-located. But I'm not holding my breath! the problem as far as Drigh is concerned is that it was part of the old borough of Morley. There are other parts of the old borough, West and East Ardsley and Tingley with WF postcodes. In fact the WF postcode begins at the M62 bridge on Rein Road.It would make more sense if either these non Leeds postcode places were moved into their postcode districts or if the postcodes were changed to represent where they actually belong.I remember when I first started work that Pudsey telephone numbers could be found in both the Bradford and Leeds telephone directories.

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 12 Nov, 2011 7:49 pm

'It would make more sense if either these non Leeds postcode places were moved into their postcode districts or if the postcodes were changed to represent where they actually belong.'The Post Offfice will tell you that postcode allocation has little to do eith the geographic location, their purpose being solely for the logistics of their dorting and delivery offices. Use by others for what ever purpose is unrelated - how ever unfortunate and unfair the consequences of using a reasy made delineation of an area - I suffer too at the other side of Leeds in insurance terms

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 2:37 am

Scarborough is in York.

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 4:38 pm

Cardiarms wrote: Scarborough is in York. As is WhitbyGrimsby and Scunthorpe are in DoncasterBut much of these postcodes are sparsely populated rural areas, The Leeds/Bradford conurbation is heavily populated

Loiner in Cyprus · Post by **Loiner in Cyprus** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 5:33 pm

I now moved to Ingleton, NORTH YORKSHIRE but my address is Ingleton, Carnforth, lancashire, LA6. Now how bad is that?

Post by **chameleon** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 5:49 pm

Loiner in Cyprus wrote: I now moved to Ingleton, NORTH YORKSHIRE but my address is Ingleton, Carnforth, lancashire, LA6. Now how bad is that? I think a day of mourning is called for

geoffb · Post by **geoffb** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 5:59 pm

Royston which is 5 miles from Wakefield has a Sheffield post code as does Barnsley

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Sun 13 Nov, 2011 6:32 pm

chameleon wrote: Loiner in Cyprus wrote: I now moved to Ingleton, NORTH YORKSHIRE but my address is Ingleton, Carnforth, lancashire, LA6. Now how bad is that? I think a day of mourning is called for There are also whole swathes of the North Riding that have Darlington (DL) post codes....equally unacceptable! Yet Ilkley (Bradford) has a Leeds postcode. Although to be fair to Ilkladians, they can probably afford it

Uno Hoo · Post by **Uno Hoo** » Mon 14 Nov, 2011 12:47 am

Loiner in Cyprus wrote: I now moved to Ingleton, NORTH YORKSHIRE but my address is Ingleton, Carnforth, lancashire, LA6. Now how bad is that? Probably better than a BD postcode, which is what Settle has. Although to be fair, insurance companies probably regard all BD postcodes higher than 15 as reasonably OK, except parts of Keighley.