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Watching an old episode of 'Summer Wine'last week therewas a scene in a pub there was an advertising sign in theback ground for Ind Coope.Part of the sign is a red human hand and I seemed to remember sucha sign from the 'Troubles in Northern Ireland.Similar ?http://www.flickr.com/photos/lancashire ... 04054.html

This logo belonged to a Burton Brewery called 'Allsops' According to Wikipedia they were taken over by Ind,Coope in 1935 , and from 1935 - 1959 the company was called 'Ind, Coope and Allsop' - a name which appeared outside the Bridgefield and the Golden Cock on Kirkgate for instance.The Allsop name was dropped after 1959 but their 'red hand' logo was retained.I dont know of a Northern Irish connection. The Red Hand is , of course a symbol used by protestants in Northern Ireland, based on a well-known legend which I wont bore you with.

drapesy wrote: This logo belonged to a Burton Brewery called 'Allsops' According to Wikipedia they were taken over by Ind,Coope in 1935 , and from 1935 - 1959 the company was called 'Ind, Coope and Allsop' - a name which appeared outside the Bridgefield and the Golden Cock on Kirkgate for instance.The Allsop name was dropped after 1959 but their 'red hand' logo was retained.I dont know of a Northern Irish connection. The Red Hand is , of course a symbol used by protestants in Northern Ireland, based on a well-known legend which I wont bore you with. You could not bore us if you tried. Bring it on if you like....I worked at Tetleys which had become Allied Breweries a combination of Ind Coope, Tetleys and Ansells from Birmingham.The big breweries swallowed up the small ones until all we seemed to have was Allied, S & N, Whitbread, John Smiths and a couple of others before Maggie blew them apart into tiny little bits that grew into the wonderful little real ale breweries (rather than those chemical factories) we have today........

Flaterrer!anyway its all well covered herehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hand_of_Ulster

I would suggest that the ' red-hand' logo goes further back.The 'red- hand' was the coat of arms symbol for the Peel family. The Sir Robert Peel of Bow St. fame.Maybe besides paper mills in Bury,Lancs. They had an interest in the beer trade.??

Further news. Sir Robert Peel was the Minister for Ireland from1812 to 1818. And as he was the premier that rescinded the obnoxious Corn Law, at the time of the great Irish ' tatie' famine, maybe the Ulstermen adopted his ' Red Hand' as their own, after the division of the country.?