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Hi im looking into the murder of a policemen in leeds in the 60s i think the policeman was called edgar allan and the man convicted gordon rennard does anyone have anymore info on this ? i cant find any details online thanks in advance

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78 views and no response must be a bit ofa record !Had a bit of a mooch on line without anything worthwhile.How did it start out and have you checked the spellingRennard - reynard etc.Edgar Allen is an awful clash with Mr.Poe !
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You'd pretty much come up with 'I am the Walrus' by the Beatles if you typed it all into Google i'd guess.Mister City P'liceman sittingPretty little p'licemen in a row.Man, you should have seen them kicking Edgar Allan Poe!Goo goo g'joob!
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me wrote: Hi im looking into the murder of a policemen in leeds in the 60s i think the policeman was called edgar allan and the man convicted gordon rennard does anyone have anymore info on this ? i cant find any details online thanks in advance Hi 'me',As far as I am aware, there was not a Police Officer murdered in Leeds during the 1960's. I think that John Speed, in 1984, was the first one, in Leeds, for a very long time.Take a look at this site which gives some details:http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Forces ... ll.htmYour post is interesting as, has been mentioned, there was an American writer of poetry, horror, murder, mystery and suspense, called Edgar Allan (also known as Edgar Allan Poe) who worked at Leeds University. I think that he lived from 1809 - 1849.It is also interesting to me, personally, as there was a Leeds criminal, called Gordon Rennard, who was active in Leeds during the 1960's. As a young detective in Leeds at that time, I never knew him or met him, but I do know that he was circulated as 'wanted' for crime, for many years, from around 1966 until the 1970's. I do not know if he was ever arrested but his photograph and details were in the 'Wanted File' at the Leeds CRO for many years. I do not remember the details of why he was wanted. I often used to wonder what happened to him as he was wanted for such a long time. It even crossed my mind that he had died or was another Lord Lucan. From memory, he would have been in his thirties during the 1960's.Ian    

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I remember Sgt. John Speed being killed. It was my 13th birthday so, it's one of the things I think about every Halloween. I was too young to remember all the details but, I seem to remember the gunman was disturbed trying to steal an old, possibly yellow, mk3 Ford Cortina. I know he escaped in a Ford Transit hijacked at gunpoint. I seem to recall the gunman was targetting Asda supermarkets, I also seem to remember something about an armed robbery at I think the Asda Pudsey store that, I think was carried out by the same gunman. I seem to recall he was known as 'The Mechanic', I think he stole old Fords mainly then tuned them up to use as getaway cars, from crimewatch around the time. I don't know why but, I also seem to recall something about one of the other Police Officers involved in the shooting, not recognising the gunman later, when he was in custody.I took my kids round to see the memorial stone, when visiting Leeds on a shopping trip last year. I was shocked really, that the internet provided such a poor source of information regarding Sgt. John Speed being killed on our return home. If you can help me in anyway by correcting or adding to my memories, I would love to tell them, the real story regarding the unarmed Police Sgt. who lost his life rushing to the aid of an injured collegue all those years ago.

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morleyhall wrote: I remember Sgt. John Speed being killed. It was my 13th birthday so, it's one of the things I think about every Halloween. I was too young to remember all the details but, I seem to remember the gunman was disturbed trying to steal an old, possibly yellow, mk3 Ford Cortina. I know he escaped in a Ford Transit hijacked at gunpoint. I seem to recall the gunman was targetting Asda supermarkets, I also seem to remember something about an armed robbery at I think the Asda Pudsey store that, I think was carried out by the same gunman. I seem to recall he was known as 'The Mechanic', I think he stole old Fords mainly then tuned them up to use as getaway cars, from crimewatch around the time. I don't know why but, I also seem to recall something about one of the other Police Officers involved in the shooting, not recognising the gunman later, when he was in custody.I took my kids round to see the memorial stone, when visiting Leeds on a shopping trip last year. I was shocked really, that the internet provided such a poor source of information regarding Sgt. John Speed being killed on our return home. If you can help me in anyway by correcting or adding to my memories, I would love to tell them, the real story regarding the unarmed Police Sgt. who lost his life rushing to the aid of an injured collegue all those years ago. We have a little here -http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... =1Probably more if you search.

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I was an eye-witness to the murder of PC Yvonne Fletcher in St James's Square, London, in the 80s. My office was two or three doors along from the Libyan Embassy, and a group of us were watching the demonstration opposite, when the shooting took place. I have seen a lot of conspiracy theories on the internet about this tragic event, most of which try to suggest that the shots came from elsewhere. This is rubbish - I saw it with my own eyes. These theories insult the memory of PC Fletcher, and the other officers involved, particularly the one who shielded her from the embassy with his own body.    

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Thanks Ian. Let's hope for success. Incidentally, none of the people in our office were ever questioned by the police at the time, even though several of us (including a copywriter who went on to be a well-known novelist,) were watching from the open window. I remember the shots sounded like fire-crackers in the confines of the square. The stand-off lasted two weeks, and for the first week we had to work elsewhere. For the second week, we were let back into the building, but only the half which didn't face the square. We had special passes to get past the barriers, and were pestered by the press each morning and evening.WPC Fletcher's memorial was unveiled at the corner of the square some time later, by Michael Winner, if I remember right.    

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iansmithofotley wrote: me wrote: Hi im looking into the murder of a policemen in leeds in the 60s i think the policeman was called edgar allan and the man convicted gordon rennard does anyone have anymore info on this ? i cant find any details online thanks in advance Hi 'me',As far as I am aware, there was not a Police Officer murdered in Leeds during the 1960's. I think that John Speed, in 1984, was the first one, in Leeds, for a very long time.Take a look at this site which gives some details:http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Forces ... ll.htmYour post is interesting as, has been mentioned, there was an American writer of poetry, horror, murder, mystery and suspense, called Edgar Allan (also known as Edgar Allan Poe) who worked at Leeds University. I think that he lived from 1809 - 1849.It is also interesting to me, personally, as there was a Leeds criminal, called Gordon Rennard, who was active in Leeds during the 1960's. As a young detective in Leeds at that time, I never knew him or met him, but I do know that he was circulated as 'wanted' for crime, for many years, from around 1966 until the 1970's. I do not know if he was ever arrested but his photograph and details were in the 'Wanted File' at the Leeds CRO for many years. I do not remember the details of why he was wanted. I often used to wonder what happened to him as he was wanted for such a long time. It even crossed my mind that he had died or was another Lord Lucan. From memory, he would have been in his thirties during the 1960's.IanHi what did you want to know I am his niece (no loved lost dont like the man) will let you know what you want to the best of my knowedge     

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