Congratulations to the Rhinos

grumpytramp · Post by **grumpytramp** » Sat 10 Oct, 2009 9:15 pm

Three in a row!A splendid game, played at an extra-ordinary intensity ......... and hats off to Kevin Sinfield for his dedication of the trophy to John Holmes; a fitting epitaph from the club to its greatest servant!

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Sat 10 Oct, 2009 9:48 pm

yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces

Post by **cnosni** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 5:05 pm

tyke bhoy wrote: yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces oh dear,here we go again.No mention that Cunningham should have been sin binned i see.Yorkshire!!

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 5:43 pm

cnosni wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces oh dear,here we go again.No mention that Cunningham should have been sin binned i see.Yorkshire!! Smith was offside though. I'm not sure whether it would have affected the outcome, he was only a little bit offside, but then Eastmond only brushed the corner flag and his score was ruled out. Best team won though I thought.

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 9:50 pm

cnosni wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces oh dear,here we go again.No mention that Cunningham should have been sin binned i see.Yorkshire!! You mean Cunningham making accidental contact with Leulai's arm.No further mention of the Sky commentary team including a Wiganer musing on why Saints didn't get a penalty try for Webb's thuggery of leading with both knees. Little mention of why only Rhino's fans and Bentham don't believe smith was offside(that includes Eddie, Stevvo, Iestyn Harris and Jonathan Edwards). Leulaia bounces the ball and gets a penalty, Gidley passes the ball backwards (I know that's a surprise for Rhino's as they are permitted to throw it forward) but because its in front of Gardner, Ganson thinks its head and feed to Leeds. As he also did when Jamie Peacock stripped the ball in a three man tackle. It would be interesting to see the "lying on" stats for last night as Leeds were certainly most guilty of it but weren't penalised once unlike Saints.But enough for last nights inconsistency lets look as officialdoms inconsistency. Cas had a player banned for 4 matches towards the end of the season. His offense was minimal compared with those commited by Buchanan, Diskin and Senior in the last Saints game. Their combined sanctions was only half that imposed on Cas and a Leeds player also got away without even being disciplined for a head high tackle on Fasavulu followed by a flop and short armed jab on the follow up because that first tackle was so wild he couldn't complete the "tackle" at the first attempt.Arguments for replay technology being expanded to other sports are now dead in the water as last night the RFL proved that conclusive evidence is ignored even when in place when the "agenda" suits. Monty must now be retired.

Leeds-lad · Post by **Leeds-lad** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 10:04 pm

tyke bhoy wrote: cnosni wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces oh dear,here we go again.No mention that Cunningham should have been sin binned i see.Yorkshire!! You mean Cunningham making accidental contact with Leulai's arm.No further mention of the Sky commentary team including a Wiganer musing on why Saints didn't get a penalty try for Webb's thuggery of leading with both knees. Little mention of why only Rhino's fans and Bentham don't believe smith was offside(that includes Eddie, Stevvo, Iestyn Harris and Jonathan Edwards). Leulaia bounces the ball and gets a penalty, Gidley passes the ball backwards (I know that's a surprise for Rhino's as they are permitted to throw it forward) but because its in front of Gardner, Ganson thinks its head and feed to Leeds. As he also did when Jamie Peacock stripped the ball in a three man tackle. It would be interesting to see the "lying on" stats for last night as Leeds were certainly most guilty of it but weren't penalised once unlike Saints.But enough for last nights inconsistency lets look as officialdoms inconsistency. Cas had a player banned for 4 matches towards the end of the season. His offense was minimal compared with those commited by Buchanan, Diskin and Senior in the last Saints game. Their combined sanctions was only half that imposed on Cas and a Leeds player also got away without even being disciplined for a head high tackle on Fasavulu followed by a flop and short armed jab on the follow up because that first tackle was so wild he couldn't complete the "tackle" at the first attempt.Arguments for replay technology being expanded to other sports are now dead in the water as last night the RFL proved that conclusive evidence is ignored even when in place when the "agenda" suits. Monty must now be retired. I take it you're not a Rhino fan then

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 10:46 pm

Leeds-lad wrote: I take it you're not a Rhino fan then A rugby league fan who saw my sport die a lingering death of a thousand replays shown to an incompetent directed by a a fool. Apparently Ladbrokes were offering odds on some video ref decisions. I don't think they offered odds on a video ref decision that was plainly wrong to every independent witness.

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 11 Oct, 2009 11:07 pm

tyke bhoy wrote: Leeds-lad wrote: I take it you're not a Rhino fan then A rugby league fan who saw my sport die a lingering death of a thousand replays shown to an incompetent directed by a a fool. Apparently Ladbrokes were offering odds on some video ref decisions. I don't think they offered odds on a video ref decision that was plainly wrong to every independent witness. To have a referee reffing his home town team makes the game look pathetic. He's in a no win situation. In order to show how fair he really is he can favour his home town teams' opponents, or he can just put it to the back of his mind and referee normally, but subconsciously would he have favoured Saints. Who knows. If they haven't got a better ref than Ganson, they should bring in an Aussie, or good compromise, get Ashley Klein back for the big matches in situations like this.

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 12 Oct, 2009 8:32 pm

tyke bhoy wrote: cnosni wrote: tyke bhoy wrote: yeah well done Monty Bentham for not knowing about offside, Ganson for bottling at least a sin binning for Webb and the RL for inconsistency in banning players.RIP John Holmes but todays Leeds are not fit to tie your boot laces oh dear,here we go again.No mention that Cunningham should have been sin binned i see.Yorkshire!! You mean Cunningham making accidental contact with Leulai's arm.No further mention of the Sky commentary team including a Wiganer musing on why Saints didn't get a penalty try for Webb's thuggery of leading with both knees. Little mention of why only Rhino's fans and Bentham don't believe smith was offside(that includes Eddie, Stevvo, Iestyn Harris and Jonathan Edwards). Leulaia bounces the ball and gets a penalty, Gidley passes the ball backwards (I know that's a surprise for Rhino's as they are permitted to throw it forward) but because its in front of Gardner, Ganson thinks its head and feed to Leeds. As he also did when Jamie Peacock stripped the ball in a three man tackle. It would be interesting to see the "lying on" stats for last night as Leeds were certainly most guilty of it but weren't penalised once unlike Saints.But enough for last nights inconsistency lets look as officialdoms inconsistency. Cas had a player banned for 4 matches towards the end of the season. His offense was minimal compared with those commited by Buchanan, Diskin and Senior in the last Saints game. Their combined sanctions was only half that imposed on Cas and a Leeds player also got away without even being disciplined for a head high tackle on Fasavulu followed by a flop and short armed jab on the follow up because that first tackle was so wild he couldn't complete the "tackle" at the first attempt.Arguments for replay technology being expanded to other sports are now dead in the water as last night the RFL proved that conclusive evidence is ignored even when in place when the "agenda" suits. Monty must now be retired. Of course,i forgot,there isnt just the Cuthbert Brodrick conspiracy,JFK and 9/11.Theres the conspiracy that the most hated team in SL has supplanted the RFL and the match officials with its own agents to achieve world wide RL supremacy.Bentham hates Cas anyway,ask any Cas fan.perhaps if the sight of the best team in SL at the moment upsets you,then perhaps it would be wise not to watch.Its a mans game ,thers always going to be argy bargy,if there wasnt then it would be rugby union. Well probably do this again next year.

Post by **tyke bhoy** » Mon 12 Oct, 2009 11:03 pm

cnosni wrote: Theres the conspiracy that the most hated team in SL has supplanted the RFL and the match officials with its own agents to achieve world wide RL supremacy.Bentham hates Cas anyway,ask any Cas fan.perhaps if the sight of the best team in SL at the moment upsets you,then perhaps it would be wise not to watch.Its a mans game ,thers always going to be argy bargy,if there wasnt then it would be rugby union. Well probably do this again next year. Your rail against the conspiracy theory isn't helped by the Rhino's own coach who on Look North tonight claimed that Eddie and Stevvo got the offside law wrong. Well unless only the Rhino's, their partners Leeds Met and the referrees Leeds Met have the responsibility of training are the only ones informed of a change in het law and interpretation of the law then he is correct. However for the wrong reason.Law14 exerpt from http://www.therfl.co.uk/clientdocs/rugb ... 282%29.pdf (note the provenance) RFL wrote: A player is off side except when he is in his own ingoalif the ball touches, is touched, held or kicked, byone of his own team behind him. Although I have yet to find anything with adequate provenance the reference to both feet being behind the kicker is as a point of reference. MClennan's argument that Lee Smiths front foot was off the ground albeit over a yard in front of McGuire's leading foot and therefore is discounted is laughable as his rear foot was also at best level and certainly not behind McGuire. Also what point of reference is taken if, as quite likely in the definition of running, both feet were off the ground.I have also seen ridiculously the argument that had Smith been onside he would still have scored well maybe. But then had Brent Webb not used his knees to push Ade Gardener out of play he would still have scored too. Similar can be said of Sinfield's legal tackle which resulted in Eastmond hitting the corner flag inches before grounding to nulify a try (and Bentham got that correct by awarding a 20 metre restart (touch in goal) rather than a scrum defence however on the aforementioned argument he would have been justified in awarding a try cos he was only just in touch