Harehills Colliery

[liits]

I suppose it would save on carrying bags of rubbish down the stairs.

[The Parksider]

grumpytramp wrote: Moortown Colliery was located between Allerton Grove and Street Lane [see extract from OS 1:2500 from 1908] but wasn't a colliery but a shaft associated with a clay pit/brickworks On visiting the site the shaft seems to be built on by a wide brick bungalow, and I am guessing some sort of a modern raft foundation may have been used.More to the point across the road to the clay pit is a row of eight "cottages" in a terrace now making up No.s 47 - 55 Street lane.These are whitewashed but they mask their brick built origins in line with most old brick buildings in Leeds in that they are cement rendered to protect the poor quality brick from deterioration. Outside one of the cottages are four old bricks probably taken from an interior alteration and my guess is these are the bricks made "across the road". Whilst the site is not marked as a "Brick field" nor does it display any remains of kilns or chimneys on old maps.The on the ground look at this seemingly is a clay pit and brick field opened to build a row of cottages in brick on Moor Allerton some time after it's enclosure in 1809 and some time before the area started to use brick rather than stone from (probably) the Brick manufacturers in Harehills itself c. 1870's on??BIG QUESTION of the wonderful gazeteer and directory experts on here - anyone have any record of who lived in those eight cottages in the old days??    

[uncle mick]

Parksider. Are these the cottages you are referring to http://goo.gl/maps/FynWIIn the 1881 Census there were a lot of various people living in the cottages both householders & borders.Among the occupations are Brick Works Manager, Brick Maker, Brick Makers Labourer and Excavators (Navvy).Do you need their names or is 1881 later than what you required ? Edit: Circa 1875    http://tithemaps.leeds.gov.uk/LargeMap. ... L2&tabR=R1

[dogduke]

Just a few snippets which might be helpfulFrom Leodis,Conway street Harehills Road Jcn and a posted commenthttp://www.leodis.org/displayJ.aspx?resourceId ... ment:There were a couple of places where the end of streets connecting to Harehills Road had hoardings instead of a house. I believe I read that this was because of old mine shafts which made the ground unstable. However, I believe that at least one of these hoardings have now been pulled down and the ground built on.___________________________Current street view still shows hoardings at this point.Also :-From More Annals of Leeds 1880-192022.2.1906 -Discovery of iron ore at Rock colliery Burmantofts3.4.1897 A coal seam 18in thick was discovered in Briggate.It was found by workmen who were digging at a depth of 5 feet in connection with the laying down of the underground wires for the electric tramway.

[The Parksider]

uncle mick wrote: Parksider. Are these the cottages you are referring to http://goo.gl/maps/FynWIIn the 1881 Census there were a lot of various people living in the cottages both householders & borders.Among the occupations are Brick Works Manager, Brick Maker, Brick Makers Labourer and Excavators (Navvy).Do you need their names or is 1881 later than what you required ? Edit: Circa 1875    http://tithemaps.leeds.gov.uk/LargeMap. ... L2&tabR=R1 Blimey Mick, your a genius. Now we have the actual people who worked the clay pit and yes I'd love their names.Do you have access to censuses from before and after 1881 that can indicate roughly when the cottages were built and indicate roughly how long the brick works operated.

[The Parksider]

dogduke wrote: Just a few snippets which might be helpfulFrom Leodis,Conway street Harehills Road Jcn and a posted commenthttp://www.leodis.org/displayJ.aspx?resourceId ... ment:There were a couple of places where the end of streets connecting to Harehills Road had hoardings instead of a house. I believe I read that this was because of old mine shafts which made the ground unstable. However, I believe that at least one of these hoardings have now been pulled down and the ground built on.___________________________Current street view still shows hoardings at this point.Also :-From More Annals of Leeds 1880-192022.2.1906 -Discovery of iron ore at Rock colliery Burmantofts3.4.1897 A coal seam 18in thick was discovered in Briggate.It was found by workmen who were digging at a depth of 5 feet in connection with the laying down of the underground wires for the electric tramway. Fabulous stuff - 18" of coal so close to the surface.Bell pits littered the centre of Leeds especially quarry hill.Thanks ever so much...

[Leodian]

As a child in the late 1940s to early 1950s I used to sometimes play on the slag heap (near the Shaftesbury and behind Sumrie's area on York Road) that would probably have been that from Harehills Colliery. Most play though was done on what if I recall correctly was the taller Osmondthorpe Pit spoil heap and the then open ground nearby off Osmondthorpe Lane (long built over).

[uncle mick]

[quotenick="The Parksider"]Do you have access to censuses from before and after 1881 that can indicate roughly when the cottages were built and indicate roughly how long the brick works operated.It appears that the cottages were built in 1870.Moortown continued to be dominated by agriculture for the rest of the 19thC, although another clay quarry and brickworks opened, together with 8 adjacent workers’ cottages on Street Lane, built in 1870 (which remain)Copied from http://moortowncommunitygroup.org.uk/ND ... on.pdfThis should take you to images of the 1881 Census for the cottageshttp://flic.kr/s/aHsjE4ir1EFrom the 1893 Directory it seems there are no Brickworkers etc living in those cottageshttp://flic.kr/p/dWggstIn the 1891 Census there no Brickworkers etc either.On the Tithe Maps there appears to be something there. The Tithe Maps are dated between 1838 & 1861 according to the websitehttp://tithemaps.leeds.gov.uk/LargeMap.aspx?srch=&singleplot=&hlt=&hlp=&e=431038&n=438731&scale=0.5&tabL=L1&tabR=R1                    

[The Parksider]

Leodian wrote: As a child in the late 1940s to early 1950s I used to sometimes play on the slag heap (near the Shaftesbury and behind Sumrie's area on York Road) that would probably have been that from Harehills Colliery. Most play though was done on what if I recall correctly was the taller Osmondthorpe Pit spoil heap and the then open ground nearby off Osmondthorpe Lane (long built over). That heap was York Road Colliery and Iron works, Harehills colliery was further down in the Compton road area originally and included Gipton Colliery which took the name probably because the coals were transported by railway to Harehills to behind the Fforde Greene - the railway is traceable.

[The Parksider]

[quotenick="uncle mick"] The Parksider wrote: It appears that the cottages were built in 1870.From the 1893 Directory it seems there are no Brickworkers etc living in those cottagesIn the 1891 Census there no Brickworkers etc either.On the Tithe Maps there appears to be something there. The Tithe Maps are dated between 1838 & 1861 according to the website                     Mick - THANK YOU we have an idea of the date of operation and it may be the Brickmakers had to move on, but at that time Leeds was getting littered with modern Brickworks so their skills would have been in demand easily got them jobs elsewhere I would guess??Their origins from the south are also highly interesting - did Leeds have to import these skills one the city turned away from stone and moved to brick for development.PS The only really old brick building I have found so far in the area is the Mustard Pot!!