An old-looking wall on North Street (near Lovell Park).

j.c.d. · Post by **j.c.d.** » Fri 10 Oct, 2014 10:56 am

Strange how time plays tricks with your memory.yes there was a high wall surrounding a large building just past Skinner lane (?) in the 50s and 60s it was a night club called the Windmill, it must have been quite a grand place in its day, The feisty lady with the fruit shop was Jinny Cohen (there could not possibly be more than one )she was a tiny Jewish women who's fruit shop was actually on the corner of Wintoun St. and North St. she would have had no truck with todays Common Market, Metric measure or weights and measures.she kept it simple, small apple / orange 1d..... large apple / orange 2d. if you wanted to pick your own or made any comment she did not like she would fly into a rage and the unfortunate would be customer would be sent packing. By the late 50s there was only the shops left standing on the right hand side of North St in the area around the White Stag and the Eagle Pub, all the shops were occupied and the business part was still thriving on the left hand side, apart from the shops there was still a fair amount of business being conducted especially around the Wintoun St. area.Hope this helps a bit

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 10 Oct, 2014 12:10 pm

j.c.d. wrote: Strange how time plays tricks with your memory.The feisty lady with the fruit shop was Jinny Cohen (there could not possibly be more than one )she was a tiny Jewish women who's fruit shop was actually on the corner of Wintoun St. and North St. she would have had no truck with todays Common Market, Metric measure or weights and measures.she kept it simple, small apple / orange 1d..... large apple / orange 2d. if you wanted to pick your own or made any comment she did not like she would fly into a rage and the unfortunate would be customer would be sent packing.Spot of j.c.d. - thank you very much for correcting the failing memory here - Mrs. Cohen it certainly was and Wintoun Street too !! When I saw earlier in the post where Grafton Street was I thought I must be wrong there, as I had a strong memory of the shop being further away from Lovell Park than Grafton Street seems to have been, so yes Wintoun Street it definitely was. Your description of Mrs. Cohens' "customer relations" agrees exactly with mine, and if either of us had posted any exact quotations we should have been drummed out of SL for sure !!

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 10 Oct, 2014 1:01 pm

uncle mick wrote: The "ruin" looks like it was the vicarage of St Lukes Church Get in there!!!!!!

NST · Post by **NST** » Fri 10 Oct, 2014 2:05 pm

LS1 wrote: Have a look at this, from the 1949 surveyed OS map. Both features can be seen here. Grafton Street may appear in a different location because Byron Street has been opened up quite extensively at the North St junction. 99 North Street looks interesting. I wonder if anyone can find what it was. I cant see any photos on Leodis of this part of the street. It is the property just east of "Grafton School" at the bottom of Lovell Road. I think this is what the wall bounded. Sooo happy this thread is still going Thanks for the welcome Leodis!What were the names of your great grandparents LS1? I bet my great grandparents knew them! Can you let me know and I'll ask my Nanna if she remembers them?Speaking of which, can you do me a big favour please and possibly re-scan that 1949 OD map for me to include the whole length of Grafton Street? I'd love to show my nana at some point. Would be very much appreciated. Maybe its just a trick of perspective, but it's still hard to fathom how that North Street original terrace (looking at those two pics I posted earlier from 1906 & 1956) fits onto the existing wall 'ruin'. Looking at the historical pics, there is a good length of wall before you reach the shops and then you have three shops before you get to the actual corner of Grafton street. If you look at a google street view of that (ruin) existing wall, I can't see how all that fits. But unless the street has indeed moved, I guess it must have just fit.Most strange!

NST · Post by **NST** » Fri 10 Oct, 2014 3:08 pm

Was intrigued about that North street terrace 'fitting' on to the existing wall ruins still there today so did a quick mock up with google maps onto a 1908 map - it does indeed fit. Those original shops must have been tiny!

polo · Post by **polo** » Sat 11 Oct, 2014 6:43 am

While where on the subject of interesting walls anyone spotted this wall on canal road http://goo.gl/maps/HyPfw

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 11 Oct, 2014 12:41 pm

polo wrote: While where on the subject of interesting walls anyone spotted this wall on canal road http://goo.gl/maps/HyPfw Hi Polo .That is a fascinating and interesting looking wall.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sat 11 Oct, 2014 7:38 pm

I've always been puzzled by this strip of stone between two brick buildings. Keeps me awake at night thinking about it.http://goo.gl/maps/Y0CZo

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 11 Oct, 2014 8:47 pm

Cardiarms wrote: I've always been puzzled by this strip of stone between two brick buildings. Keeps me awake at night thinking about it.http://goo.gl/maps/Y0CZo Hi Cardiarms .Yes it is an odd feature.In view of the threads wall topic I like the 'Great Wall' name of that premises. Armley Moor (as in the 'Armley Moor Pharmacy') is also intriguing. It's hard to imagine now that there may once have been a moor at Armley!

buffaloskinner · Post by **buffaloskinner** » Sat 11 Oct, 2014 9:18 pm

Leodian just swing around 180 degrees on the google map and there is Armley Moor in all its splendour!!