Info needed: Barnbow pit/Barrowby lane (calling the Chameleon)

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 11:15 pm

It's a little like the Last Night of the Proms when we wake you Grumpy my friend - you never fail to bring forth what we wait to hearI'm no expert on matters geology or interpreting the maps come to that, but these two pits sit in the centre of a triangle of three prospective fault lines, sharing (I think) a close association with Middleton Main, Middleton Light and Flockton Thin beds which I believe adds weight to your suppositions. I see your finding appear to agree with the dates we suggest too.I'm sure this is deep mine as were others round about - what are your thoughts on its closure method - capped or filled?Such a shame there seems to be so little in the way of plans of images of these places.

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 11:20 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: I think a nice little explore in those woods sounds good if anyone fancies a look? (Mrs Chameleon is concerned that the people in the big house might notice their very nice rockery feature being dismantled - I've explained the attack will of course be from below via a tunnel Phill )

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 11:54 pm

chameleon wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: I think a nice little explore in those woods sounds good if anyone fancies a look? (Mrs Chameleon is concerned that the people in the big house might notice their very nice rockery feature being dismantled - I've explained the attack will of course be from below via a tunnel Phill ) Ha ha.. I gotta laugh at that Chameleon,,, Sooo funny

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Tue 04 Aug, 2009 9:29 am

[quotenick="grumpytramp"] The Parksider wrote: Any dates The close proximity of the two collieries is curious. The three most likely reasons are: the Beeston coals were relatively shallow, therefore a new colliery site might have been justified to reduce underground haulage a geological fault different mineral leaseholdersI would suspect the former is the likely explanation Whilst you are around I'd be (more than) interested in any comments (as Chameleon would) on the associated occurence of Ironstone and Fireclay in Leeds.Whilst we can understand the coal seams occur at different levels, there are no accounts I have seen of how the Ironstone or Fireclay occurs and what it looks like?The old OS maps claim many of the Middleton woods mines to be Ironstone but that is disputed?, an NMRS survey on an early Brimham foundry quoted north Leeds as a possible good source of ironstone?? Is this ironhills in seacroft?? I've picked up heavy red stone at Rosedale Iron Mines, but in Leeds seen only sandstone tinged with brown bits looking "rusty" how did Leeds ironstone occur and what form does it take?Similarly Fireclay. As kids we could dig down and find clay as either grey, or yellowed by the sand/iron. yet all the Leeds brickworks produced a red brick. The colliery we speak about appears to have a lot of red "shale" or is it red fireclay, some of the waste appearing as round lumps on the tips. Did bricks always need firing - what is the difference between brickworks with kilns and "brick fields" that seem to preceed Later victorian brickworks.Most brickworks seem to run a waggonway for a hundered yards into almost a pit/quarry adjacent, They are all over Leeds and I'll list them, could you just dig down a few meters and dig it out? Does fireclay or ironstone occur without coals??Whilst the history of Leeds coal develops nicely here, Fireclay and Iron should not be forgotten??