Jimmy Savile

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 1:57 pm

Jogon wrote: Spackler:-"I havent accused you of anything Jogon" = Agreed, I didn't think you had - don't go mate "If you are indeed replying to my post" = I wasn't, just covering some of M'learned friend cnosgnci's comments. THE BEAUTY of this thread is that it has not been 'pulled'/removed/ or hindsighted as is the current yewtree vogue.Lot of folk wanted it thus and still do, that would be a shame.I'd allus thought Jim Sav was, on balance, an ok guy with lot's of naysayers cos he was unconventional and rich. Like a lot of Leeds who turned out for his funeral.This wonderful thread saw my initial fond farewells etc, then disbelief, then sort of sadness at the stuff coming out (fallen hero etc). As someone said - it's a rollercoaster of emotions and shows human nature 1. He's great 2. They say he's not 3. He's not great 4. Dig him up.I'm uncomfortable that yewtree is part of the sort-of Blair's Britain / let's apologise for slavery / handwringing / rather than a proper factual exercise by Police who did nowt 1st 2nd 3rd 4th etc time around. psI should like to form a clique about the Isle of Cynder.Just me then. Oh im definiteley not "Learned"

edlong · Post by **edlong** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:02 pm

Just wanted to add an observation to the comments about a "clique":As a frequent reader but very infrequent poster (I'm interested in lots but know little hence have little to add to most threads) I'm aware that there a relatively small number of regular / frequent posters on this site, who obviously have built up a rapport with each other as well as having lots to contribute (i.e. they post lots 'cos they know lots).On the rare occasions I've had something to add, or ask, I've never felt unwelcome or excluded because I'm not "one of the gang". In fact quite the opposite. I've always found this site very welcoming and inclusive.On topic, I think this thread should definitely stay, it's a great document of the experience the Great British public has had since JS died - tributes and RIP, through disbelief and cynicism about a media "hatchet job", then through disgust and, yes, a little embarassment at our previous collective tributes. On this most recent part of the debate I, for the first time I can really remember, find myself agreeing with something in the Daily Mail and am not impressed with the Police going from "there's smoke, but without better evidence, no fire we can prosecute" to "he did everything anyone said he did".In summary:1) Keep the thread2) You're not cliquey3) The police continue to not cover themselves with glory

WiggyDiggy · Post by **WiggyDiggy** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:16 pm

edlong wrote: ......As a frequent reader but very infrequent poster (I'm interested in lots but know little hence have little to add to most threads) I'm aware that there a relatively small number of regular / frequent posters on this site, who obviously have built up a rapport with each other as well as having lots to contribute (i.e. they post lots 'cos they know lots).On the rare occasions I've had something to add, or ask, I've never felt unwelcome or excluded because I'm not "one of the gang". In fact quite the opposite. I've always found this site very welcoming and inclusive......1) Keep the thread2) You're not cliquey...... Just to echo those sentiments....Dont ditch the thread, its one of the few places on the web I can follow the JS enquiry/investigation without a flaming pitchfork being considered obligatory if you take part!

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:31 pm

edlong wrote: Just wanted to add an observation to the comments about a "clique":As a frequent reader but very infrequent poster (I'm interested in lots but know little hence have little to add to most threads) I'm aware that there a relatively small number of regular / frequent posters on this site, who obviously have built up a rapport with each other as well as having lots to contribute (i.e. they post lots 'cos they know lots).On the rare occasions I've had something to add, or ask, I've never felt unwelcome or excluded because I'm not "one of the gang". In fact quite the opposite. I've always found this site very welcoming and inclusive.On topic, I think this thread should definitely stay, it's a great document of the experience the Great British public has had since JS died - tributes and RIP, through disbelief and cynicism about a media "hatchet job", then through disgust and, yes, a little embarassment at our previous collective tributes. On this most recent part of the debate I, for the first time I can really remember, find myself agreeing with something in the Daily Mail and am not impressed with the Police going from "there's smoke, but without better evidence, no fire we can prosecute" to "he did everything anyone said he did".In summary:1) Keep the thread2) You're not cliquey3) The police continue to not cover themselves with glory Those are very welcome words edlong, and realistic - because some people post more than others means just that they are able or wish to be more prolific, rather outside the definition of clique to most average peoples thinking. Any one can post as much as they want so long as it is relevant to the site!When the allegation about JS emerged, even though not actively involved with the site at that time, I cringed at how this thread may develop! I've not read it all by any means but having been encouraged to go back further than some possibly less good remarks, it does seem to serve a purpose with much honesty thank goodness. Not a very nice topic to have to read in anyone's book I'm sure and made worse by its contrast to all the positive things coming from thr chap's life. As much as I want to say on that one.Nice to know you feel welcomed edlong, the site does overall welcome and try to accomodate everyone - not always easy for everyone to do, but I think most try.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:35 pm

Welcome Back

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:37 pm

Chameleon? Where have you been?

Si · Post by Si » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:44 pm

It's great to see you back, Chameleon. I was getting worried about you. Hope you're well, and that you and yours had a good Christmas.

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:44 pm

Thanks people, Had a need to take some personal time to re-recouperate so left you lot to argue between yer sens for a while.Lots of enquiries from folk, can't possibly write to everyone but be assured, all these were welcome and well received.Cheers folks.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 2:49 pm

chameleon wrote: Thanks people, Had a need to take some personal time to re-recouperate so left you lot to argue between yer sens for a while.Lots of enquiries from folk, can't possibly write to everyone but be assured, all these were welcome and well received.Cheers folks. Phew Thought you'd popped your clogs mate!!You just vanished one day, never to be heard of again.I sent you a few messages to see if everything was ok, I asked around a bit. I think csnosi even posted a thread to see where you were. It's good to see you back whatever

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 14 Jan, 2013 8:25 pm

Yes welcome back Chameleon! Nice post further up the page Jogon, I went through those same emotions myself about Savile - and If my post yesterday seemed a bit "smart alecky" I hold my hands up and apologise.