Info needed: Barnbow pit/Barrowby lane (calling the Chameleon)

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:16 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Yes i'm very wary of this ''hole'' lol.It's why i want to know as much as poss about it.I doubt the void is a fox or animal hole, it's a good drop into the shaft, i dont think an animal would be going in there. there were a few of these voids, it just didn't seem to be bricklined on that side.T.b.H i never noticed that barbed wire (i'm not joking, i must be oblivious to obstacles now lol) till i upoaded the pics on to the p.c. at home.I thought eh? where did that come from? Just thinking that if it is new rather than the rusty stuff I saw, maaaaybeeee, someone has decided there is a problem developing there - aside from SL crawling all over it of course

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:24 pm

If anyone hasn't seen, then this is the size of the shaft herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/3781580802/The brickwork detail lower down is herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/378075 ... ostream/If you would like to do the honours again Chameleon, please feel free

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:37 pm

two more from Phill

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:37 pm

two more from Phill

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:38 pm

2 and my humble offering of the hole in the ground which seemed to start all this!http://www.flickr.com/photos/chameleon2008/3456250647/

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:43 pm

Lots of debris, thrown in.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:44 pm

That rusty sheet on your shot wasn't there when we looked, that would be where that concrete/render is.

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:46 pm

28 June 2009

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 9:49 pm

Barwicker wrote: I should have added that the book also mentions " massive foundation walls of engine house" I missed that - too busy chasing round the locations your book provided than thinking on the text.Just about confirms the engine house is now the rockery of the garden next door.Any dates for Brown Moor and ownership? Can't think these "two" collieries are really seperate entities. Unless there's a massive geological fault twixt the two.

grumpytramp · Post by **grumpytramp** » Mon 03 Aug, 2009 10:32 pm

The Parksider wrote: Any dates for Brown Moor and ownership? Can't think these "two" collieries are really seperate entities. Unless there's a massive geological fault twixt the two. According to Mike Gills opus at the NMRS website (http://www.nmrs.co.uk/mainframeset.htm see online resource Mines of coal and other stratified minerals in Yorkshire from 1854) Brown Moor Colliery was operational at least between 1854 and 1882. He notes the start date is identified on the 1st Series OS map (see old-maps.co.uk 1854) so it clearly predates 1854. Hudson in his "Aberford Railway and the history of the Garforth Collieries" pust the sinking date as c1835-1840. It was owned and operated by Edward Waud.Mike Gill then identifies that West Yorkshire Colliery operated between 1865 and 1882. I suspect that Waud may have sunk this pit as well, but he was declared a bankrupt in 1866 and his collieries were divested to other parties (Hudson page 119) The close proximity of the two collieries is curious. The three most likely reasons are:1) the Beeston coals were relatively shallow, therefore a new colliery site might have been justified to reduce underground haulage (this is a pattern of development typical of the Garforth and Menston collieries) and increase output2) a geological fault (though there are no clues to that being the case) - look at the OS 1st series and note the close proximity of Prince Arthur, Adelaide, West Yorkshire, Brown Moor, Ellen and Manston Old pits3) different mineral leaseholdersI would suspect the former is the likely explanation