home comming parade for the troops in leeds

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 5:36 pm

Whoever has taken my comments off this thread and re-launched it should be ashamed of themselves. Just becaue I stated I wouldn't feel comfortable with cheering a returning force from a war I did not agree with.Disgraceful, is only one point of view allowed on Secret Leeds now?

simon2710 · Post by **simon2710** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 5:40 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: Whoever has taken my comments off this thread and re-launched it should be ashamed of themselves. Just becaue I stated I wouldn't feel comfortable with cheering a returning force from a war I did not agree with.Disgraceful, is only one point of view allowed on Secret Leeds now? Sorry to hear that :SBut you must understand this is a home coming parade, to celebrate the safe return of our troops, not celebrating the actual war. We will be cheering for the brave, selfless work they have done in a dangerous country. This is probably the only country in the world where we have very little and no respect for our armed forces, it's time that changed.

Reginal Perrin · Post by **Reginal Perrin** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 5:47 pm

simon2710 wrote: Reginal Perrin wrote: Whoever has taken my comments off this thread and re-launched it should be ashamed of themselves. Just becaue I stated I wouldn't feel comfortable with cheering a returning force from a war I did not agree with.Disgraceful, is only one point of view allowed on Secret Leeds now? Sorry to hear that :SBut you must understand this is a home coming parade, to celebrate the safe return of our troops, not celebrating the actual war. We will be cheering for the brave, selfless work they have done in a dangerous country. This is probably the only country in the world where we have very little and no respect for our armed forces, it's time that changed. No, you misunderstand, and because my comments have been removed my previous explanation is not here. I would be very conscious that someone could misconstrue my cheering as supporting the war so save carrying a placard with specific details as to why I'm there I'm on a loser really. I'll just pay my respects in November at the Cenotaph as usual. I have planty of respect for the armed forced just not a lot for their political superiors who sent them to war on lies.I also think it will be a magnet for right wing and Islamist extremists and the right wingers will pretend to be on your side too when allt hey actaully want to do is absorb your well intentioned support for the troops for political capital.

simon2710 · Post by **simon2710** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 5:58 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: simon2710 wrote: Reginal Perrin wrote: Whoever has taken my comments off this thread and re-launched it should be ashamed of themselves. Just becaue I stated I wouldn't feel comfortable with cheering a returning force from a war I did not agree with.Disgraceful, is only one point of view allowed on Secret Leeds now? Sorry to hear that :SBut you must understand this is a home coming parade, to celebrate the safe return of our troops, not celebrating the actual war. We will be cheering for the brave, selfless work they have done in a dangerous country. This is probably the only country in the world where we have very little and no respect for our armed forces, it's time that changed. No, you misunderstand, and because my comments have been removed my previous explanation is not here. I would be very conscious that someone could misconstrue my cheering as supporting the war so save carrying a placard with specific details as to why I'm there I'm on a loser really. I'll just pay my respects in November at the Cenotaph as usual. I have planty of respect for the armed forced just not a lot for their political superiors who sent them to war on lies.I also think it will be a magnet for right wing and Islamist extremists and the right wingers will pretend to be on your side too when allt hey actaully want to do is absorb your well intentioned support for the troops for political capital. Okay, fully understood! Just a bit difficult when OPs are deleted, it's happened to me before, and actual threads have gone that I have posted for no apparent reason!But you are right about the extremism, if only people could see that these are people, brave, courageous people and take their evil elsewhere (I.E. to the Houses Of Parliament), but as far as I am aware, very soon there will be an inquest into the war so the truth will come out. I didn't support the war either, but I see through that at parades such as this and I pray thankful our troops are coming home safe. As I said, it's about time we paid our respects to those, who without, we would not have freedoms we take for granted today, and we treated them with much more respect.Peace!

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 7:05 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: Whoever has taken my comments off this thread and re-launched it should be ashamed of themselves. Just becaue I stated I wouldn't feel comfortable with cheering a returning force from a war I did not agree with.Disgraceful, is only one point of view allowed on Secret Leeds now? If you read back Regie you will see a concensus thought the content of some posts - from several people - were reaching outside the essence of the thread and felt to be close to inappropriate in parts. We have all seen before how some matters can get out of hand without anyone really wanting them to, so those posts were removed in keeping with the implied ethos of the site and to quieten things down a little so that the thread could continue as the starter intended. Nobody should be offended by that.Everybody's opinion is valid and hopefully respected but once made, others are bound to offer theirs for equal consideration but that shouldn't lead to potential arguments. Let's all try to keep to the spirit of the thread.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 7:40 pm

Hmmm, it should have been replaced with a simple announcement of date, time and venue and locked (is that possible?) It does now look like one opinion has been stifled and the excuse is 'not rocking the boat'. Whose boat and who's welcome in it?

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 7:48 pm

I don't really see why the posts were deleted, Reg and I had a disagreement. He had his say, I had mine and I clearly said I was saying no more. No harsh words were exchanged. It was all over.

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 8:03 pm

Reggie and Chrism's posts were both removed so at least things are equal in that department.However i believe healthy debate helps all sides to understand the others opinion/angle/belief.I could see no particular animosity in these posts,neither was there any in mine,which were just as "controversial"Brandy drew the lines,and the two parties clearly agreed to abide by Brandys lines.Therefore i would have thought that retention of the postings would have made little difference to the spirit of the thread or the site in general.Reggie made his opinion succinctly,it may not fully agree with my own,but there you go.Perhaps we should respect each others opinion a little more.We can only do this by being able to see that opinion,whether we agree with it or not.So ,from my point of view,unless any posts are defamatory,threatening or personally vindictive/abusive then perhaps its best they should stay.Debate and engagement is healthy,without it then the site will become stale and dusty.Lets not take things too far on all aspects of this site.

Leeds-lad · Post by **Leeds-lad** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 8:13 pm

I only put one post up which has been removedI merely disagreed with Reginald's opinionIt was not malicious in the slightestObviously unless you are one of the Boys'you are not allowed an opinion on this siteGeneral Chat,you're having a laugh!!

simon2710 · Post by **simon2710** » Mon 08 Jun, 2009 8:15 pm

cnosni wrote: Reggie and Chrism's posts were both removed so at least things are equal in that department.However i believe healthy debate helps all sides to understand the others opinion/angle/belief.I could see no particular animosity in these posts,neither was there any in mine,which were just as "controversial"Brandy drew the lines,and the two parties clearly agreed to abide by Brandys lines.Therefore i would have thought that retention of the postings would have made little difference to the spirit of the thread or the site in general.Reggie made his opinion succinctly,it may not fully agree with my own,but there you go.Perhaps we should respect each others opinion a little more.We can only do this by being able to see that opinion,whether we agree with it or not.So ,from my point of view,unless any posts are defamatory,threatening or personally vindictive/abusive then perhaps its best they should stay.Debate and engagement is healthy,without it then the site will become stale and dusty.Lets not take things too far on all aspects of this site. Agreed! It does politicians no harm, as long as we are all friends in the end (and we aren't leeching off hard-earned public money!).Although, I just know that with online forums a big argument will probably occur and things will be taken out of proportion.