[HELP]Viaduct Showbar which used to be a football pub

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 09 Oct, 2012 9:51 pm

It's marked as public house in 1891, and by 1910 It's called 'The Viaduct Vaults' on the map.

liits · Post by **liits** » Tue 09 Oct, 2012 9:59 pm

I wonder why it was known as the Viaduct in 1850, 16 years before a viaduct was built?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 09 Oct, 2012 10:01 pm

liits wrote: I wonder why it was known as the Viaduct in 1850, 16 years before a viaduct was built? Mystery isn't it? As far as I know the station and viaducts stopped well short of the viaduct pub, if you look at the 1850 map there is no viaduct, and it's not even clear if they are the same buildings that stand there today.

BIG N · Post by **BIG N** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 5:49 am

liits wrote: I wonder why it was known as the Viaduct in 1850, 16 years before a viaduct was built? Maybe - in best Leeds Council tradition, the railway viaduct was announced twenty years before they managed to secure funding and start building it, so they named the pub in anticipation of the event. Of course if that was the case I guess the planned viaduct would have been an eight line wide, double deck affair but what we see now is a much watered down version.walks away whistling quietly

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 9:14 am

BIG N wrote: liits wrote: I wonder why it was known as the Viaduct in 1850, 16 years before a viaduct was built? Maybe - in best Leeds Council tradition, the railway viaduct was announced twenty years before they managed to secure funding and start building it, so they named the pub in anticipation of the event. Of course if that was the case I guess the planned viaduct would have been an eight line wide, double deck affair but what we see now is a much watered down version.walks away whistling quietly Very, very funny. You've cracked it, well done!

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 9:24 am

BIG N wrote: liits wrote: ..........16 years before a viaduct was built? Maybe - in best Leeds..............etc walks away whistling quietly [<<Marvellous detail, love it - may we enquire the tune?] Drank in viaduct couple o' times early 80s I think.Had it not closed in 1919 the Old George (over the road, under the bridge) looked a better bet"Gentlemen's smoking concert every evening" think that's me grandad peering out the alleyway.

simong · Post by **simong** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 10:39 am

liits wrote: I wonder why it was known as the Viaduct in 1850, 16 years before a viaduct was built? It probably wasn't a day pass to the Newspaper Library Archive would clear that up. That edition doesn't seem to be available at City Library but might be currently being unpacked at the county archives.

liits · Post by **liits** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 11:26 am

Thanks simong. A quick look back at the British Newspaper Archive reveals how wrong I was, and how little trust I should be put in the BNA search facility, provided by BrightSolid Media [S***eSoiled Media, the people who damaged Friends Reunited].The Viaduct beer house referred to in the article of 21/12/1850 is located in Well Street, [between Wellington Lane and Castle Street – again, odd, because there’s no viaduct!] and actually referred to a burglary of the premises, not a fight between the Irish and the Police – that was the article above.So, to revisit my original post, above....The premises were definitely an un-named Public House which appears in the 1857 Licensing Register.It is certainly the correct premises, as the trail of licensees from Halliwell [at the start of the 1857 - 1872 Licensing Register, through to the subsequent 1872 - 1914 Licensing Register and naming of the premises in 1896] is continuous.

Mayuko · Post by **Mayuko** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 11:32 am

tyke bhoy wrote: I'm not sure that its ever been called anything but The Viaduct and so named for obvious reasons. I think I have only ever been in twice both within the last 10 years, after Rugby matches, and before its reincarnation. Yes it was a football pub but only in as much that along with the Adlephi and Scarborough and other pubs on the southern edge of the City Centre they were all football pubs along with those en route to Elland Road "when Sarturday comes".I am surprised that it doesn't come up in a search of Leodis. Maybe LUFC fan/supporters club sites will have some images. Thank you for response!! I think it was classed more as Leeds United football pub in late 90s to 00s,, which is quite recent and a bit surprising. I was searching on Google typing 'football pub Briggate Leeds' so that might have been why I had so much trouble, though it is still a bit hard finding relavent information on Google though, guess it's time to stop being lazy and search the newspaper archive!!!

Mayuko · Post by **Mayuko** » Wed 10 Oct, 2012 11:36 am

LS13 wrote: It became a football lads pub in the mid 00's due to the landlord at the time. As mentioned above, there was a mural on the wall outside (didnt know GE painted it), and also the plaque to commemorate the two lads who died in Istanbul was sited there. I believe its now been moved to a pub in East Leeds. There are a few pictures in the Service Crew book of lads outside the viaduct, though it incorrectly says its outside the Adelphi. Thank you for the information!! It is surprising to me that it became a football pub only recently, and apparently they were having quite a bit of trouble with other bars around there.. Do you know which pub in East Leeds has the plaque? and I'll check out the photos too.. Thank you!!