home comming parade for the troops in leeds

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 11:22 am

Hi everyone ive just read here> http://snipurl.com/j9lu7 that the troops are having a welcome home parade through Leeds on July 24th.Im not sure of the time yet but i am going to find out.Im also going to grab every friend and relative and get down there and welcome these young lads back in proper Yorkshire fashion.SO COME ON EVERYBODY LETS GET DOWN THERE AND CHEER THEM ON!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 12:41 pm

Good shout Brandy Very patriotic of you.Good show old chap

Lilysmum · Post by **Lilysmum** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 6:09 pm

I agree !

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 6:20 pm

Lilysmum wrote: I agree ! Here here.Whether you agree with that particular war or not.It's the politicians who decide upon war.These guys are just the foot soldiers.Soldiers risk there lifes for our country unquestioned.I'm glad we had guys like that in W.W.2 anyway.

Jak · Post by **Jak** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 9:35 pm

Thanks for the info Brandy ill do my best to be there.

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Tue 02 Jun, 2009 10:35 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Lilysmum wrote: I agree ! Here here.Whether you agree with that particular war or not.It's the politicians who decide upon war.These guys are just the foot soldiers.Soldiers risk there lifes for our country unquestioned.I'm glad we had guys like that in W.W.2 anyway. Indeed mate,and at the end of the day some of these lads are only kids!One of the worst things i have seen in a very long time was them ba$tards barracking our lads in Luton TOTALLY DISGUSTING!Im not saying i agree with the war in Iraq as a matter of fact im anti war but what i do believe in is that these lads/kids have put there necks on the line for queen and country and that in itself warrants a turn out on my behalf just to say THANKS!

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 2:51 pm

Reginal Perrin wrote: I don't see how you can stand on the street cheering a military force on it's return without being seen as supporting the actions. I would happily shake the hand of any soldier and recognise their bravery but they were being used by the UK and US governments, in my opinion, of furthering the economic interests of oil, arms and military services companies (Haliburton).As I said, I will stand at the Cenotaph in November and pay my respects to one and all as usual.Soldiers only follow orders I accept that but we have won no war here, it's not a matter of celebration. It's debateable we've even made a difference. I wont be turning out to cheer the war,ill be cheering the ordinary rank and file who were,as you say,following orders.I would suggest that everyone that turns out to cheer them is of the same view as yourself (regarding the war) but as they are unable to shake the hand of the soldiers actually in Iraq for their bravery,then like myself will do it by cheering them.Ask any returning soldier what they really appreciate,and theyll say its the gratitude of the people they represent,just look at what happened with returning soldiers from Vietnam.I agree they were being used by the governments to further their monetary interestsIn that case its debateable if we should acknowledge the men who died in world war one as there is controversy about the circumstances of why the first world war was fought by Britain.Our forces were to be involved in the bloodiest of struggles because our government were becoming twitchy about the relatively new country of Germany and its terratorial and military aspirations.It was a possible threat on the high seas with the navy it was building,and was also expanding its own Empire in Africa and South East Asia.This was in direct competition with our own Empire.So the main concerns of the government of the day were driven monetary and colonial concerns,hence the triple entente with France and Russia.This colonial interest driven agreement with Russia and France led dirctly into a conflict with countries (Germany and Austro Hungary and later Turkey) which posed no direct military threat to Great Britain at the time.Does this mean we should not commemorate the ordinary men who fought in what was an initial European then world wide conflict which was primarily driven by the need to protect our colonial aspirations so that we could further exploit the resources and peoples of far flung lands to line the pockets of the rich and grand of our country?No of course not,we should and do commemorate these ordinary men.And that is it,its the ordinary men i will cheer,not the poiliticians.and in that respect i would feel i was letting down our servicemen and women of the present if i didnt.Dont forget,that a direct result of the post first world war division of the middle east into previosly non existant countries Iraq,Saudi Arabia etc eventually led to the current political situation post 2nd world war.It was Britain,that inherited most of the Middle East following the defeat of the Turks,that was primarily responsible for this redrawing and creating of new boundries and countries,and as a consequence we share some blame for the situation in the whole area.Palestine is a prime example (and no,im not pro Palestinain or Israeli)

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 6:54 pm

We shouldn't really be debating if this war with Iraq was right or not.The home coming parade is a show of support for the British armed forces as a whole.I'm sure none of the soldiers over time wanted to be in the fields of Flanders, Normandy or County Antrim.If they thought any of there wars were right they still faught in terrible conditions.I know what it feels like to do a post round for three hours and get frozen and soaked through when it's sleeting and snowing.I know how miserable i felt then.God only knows how those guys coped with it day after day if they didn't get there heads blown off first.I couldn't do it.

Post by **chameleon** » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 7:20 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: We shouldn't really be debating if this war with Iraq was right or not.The home coming parade is a show of support for the British armed forces as a whole.I'm sure none of the soldiers over time wanted to be in the fields of Flanders, Normandy or County Antrim.If they thought any of there wars were right they still faught in terrible conditions.I know what it feels like to do a post round for three hours and get frozen and soaked through when it's sleeting and snowing.I know how miserable i felt then.God only knows how those guys coped with it day after day if they didn't get there heads blown off first.I couldn't do it. Agreed Phill, If the City feels there is a place for a parade, then so be it and the event has a place on this site, as do the thoughts of whether or not there should be one - what it is seen to stand for is very much the right for individuals to decide but perhaps those thoughts are better aired elsewhere. We all know what happens when feelings get high here, can't we try to keep to the point that there is to be a parade and perhaps what the intended purpose (rather than the perception) might be? As with all else, we are free to participate or not according to our own feelings and, should accept that not everyone will agree on all the issues this could bring up

Post by **cnosni** » Wed 03 Jun, 2009 10:20 pm

Brandy,perhaps its time for your Lines to be drawn.