Harehills Colliery

[The Parksider]

In tonights YEP Yorkshire Diary there's a price list for Harehills Colliery Gipton Pit.Both names appear on the price list.There's an interesting piece about it.pretty much conforms where the Colliery is to a point.Middleton Colliery was Broom Pit and New pit.On that logic a colliery may have more than one pit.So maybe the Gipton Pit and the one at the top of the fairway together were Harehills Colliery.

[grumpytramp]

The Parksider wrote: In tonights YEP Yorkshire Diary there's a price list for Harehills Colliery Gipton Pit.Both names appear on the price list.There's an interesting piece about it.pretty much conforms where the Colliery is to a point.Middleton Colliery was Broom Pit and New pit.On that logic a colliery may have more than one pit.So maybe the Gipton Pit and the one at the top of the fairway together were Harehills Colliery. Mmmm .......Not the easiest paper to find in Perthshire! Thank goodness for t'internet. I managed to find it online:http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 863286.jpI am very reluctant to contradict Dave Clark of the Coal Aurthority (I have in the past had been greatly assisted by his incredibly knowledge of colliery records, abandonment plans etc ....... an absolute gentleman) when he states: Quote: The first is given as September 1896 due to unprofitable working, the owners at the time were listed as the Low Moor Iron Company.The second abandonment, No.7256, covers the workings in the Better Bed seam of coal and the associated fireclay. In this instance the date of abandonment is given as the 16th August 1921 (due to the Mine being flooded) with the owners at that time being given as The Leeds Fireclay Company.The mine consisted of two shafts, namely the Upcast and Downcast shafts, each sunk to an approximated depth of 250ft. The Better Bed seam was situated on what is now Thorn Walk just South of its junction with Amberton Road. I remain convinced that they are seperate entitiesFor evidence I refer to the Geological Survey's "Special Reports on the Mineral Resources of Great Britain - Vol XIV - Refractory Materials: Fireclays" published in 1920. It records the operations of the Leeds Fireclay Company Ltd of Wortly, listing its branches as Joseph Cliff and Sons, Burmatofts Co, Edward Brook and sons, Oates and Green Ltd, W Ingham and Sons, Wortley Fireclay Co and Joseph Brooke and Sons. It states that the Leeds Fireclay Company is the largest concern of its kind in Great Britain. It listed the mines and quarries operated in a table which provided information on location, depth, gradient of seam, height above sea level, seams worke, typical seam sections and the use of the clay.It lists the following quarries in the Leeds area operated by Leeds Fireclay Company :Elland Road Quarry, HunsletStanningley Quarry, FarsleyIt lists the following mines in the Leeds area operated by Leeds Fireclay Company :Harehills Mine (shaft), PotternewtonGipton No.2 Mine (day hole), PotternewtonCardigan Mine (shaft), BeestonCoronation Mine (shaft), HolbeckGreenside Mine (day hole), Pudsey Now extracting the information from table regarding Harehills and Gipton No.2 Collieries (using the format)Data / Harehills / GiptonMine / shaft / day-holeParish / Potternewton / Potternewton6 in Map / Yorks 203 SE / Yorks 203 SELatitude / 53 deg 48 min 53 sec / 53 deg 49 min 0 secLongitude / 1 deg 29 min 50 sec / 1 deg 30 min 28 secHeight above sea level / 210 / 250Depth in feet / 255 / 0Gradient of seam / 1 in 12 / 1 in 5Seams worked / Better Bed Coal & Fireclay / Beeston Coal & FireclayManufacture / Refactory, sanitory & glazed goods / Acid resisting goods for chemical manufacturersOn the one hand, the name Gipton no. 2 implies that this is the second operation in a "mining field". The shaft depths at Harehills Collliery broadly agree with Dave Clark's observations. I know that the Beeston seam outcropped to the immediate north and west of the Thorn Walk site commonly agreed to be the location of Gipton Colliery and dipped broadly to the SSE. It is coceivable that the Harehills Colliery could be a shaft to the deeper Better Bed seam(Beeston to Better Bed typically 300+ feet) and Gipton Colliery being an day-hole (adit or sloping tunnel that can be walked along) to the Beeston seam in the same siteBut there are also important differences listed. Harehills Colliery was equipped with a 255 foot shafts to the Better Beds. Gipton Colliery was equipped with a "day-hole" which is reference to an adit (ie a sloping tunnel) to the Beeston CoalBoth collieries have different latitude, longitude and heights above sea level. I am uncertain how to apply the lat.and long. to the modern OS grid .......... anyone know how to unlock that?Apart from the different location and elevation, the local geology apears different ........ the Better Bed at Harehills sits at 1 in 12 and the Beeston at Gipton sits at 1 in 5. As the Better Bed and the Beeston are likely to be only 300' + apart this suggests that the two workings are separated by important local faultsConfused ........ mmmmm!    

[chameleon]

Grumpytramp, I remember you gave those coordinates in another post, found it - almost a year ago in this thread:http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... ghLight=1I still have the image showing the coordiate point (I hope!).(Interesting to see the YEP haven't 'borrowed' Secret Leeds content for this one )