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Moved to the existing thread here to keep it all together:Hats OffUser Location: Joined on: 20-Feb-2007 20:14:01Posted: 219 posts # Posted on: 17-Jan-2012 17:07:08. Edit | Quote Found this interesting piece while trawling the web, maybe some of you will find it interesting too.http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthre ... SonRegards. Top JogonUser Location: New BeehiveJoined on: 21-Dec-2011 17:58:33Posted: 243 posts # Posted on: 17-Jan-2012 17:46:57. Delete | Edit | Quote I allus thought it was awful stuff (Tetleys Bitter), so not mourned BUTTetley snippet as it is a T thread, on holiday a few times in Whitby we were struck by two things:-1. The number of Geordies2. The pubs sold 'Tetley's Imperial' and it was ok! Don't recall seeing it round Leeds. Perhaps it was a NE beer in the main:-"18.8.2010 Carlsberg UK has signed a five-year agreement with Hartlepool brewer Camerons to brew Tetley’s keg Milds and Imperial beers".B for mutton Top The ParksiderUser Location: LeedsJoined on: 10-Nov-2007 08:25:38Posted: 1077 posts # Posted on: 17-Jan-2012 18:13:20. Delete | Edit | Quote Hats Off wrote: Found this interesting piece while trawling the web, maybe some of you will find it interesting too.http://forums.pubsgalore.co.uk/showthre ... SonRegards. Thanks Hats off.The Melbourne Beer Label was BRILLIANT!
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Trojan wrote: The Parksider wrote: Si wrote: Is there still a virtual cigar up for grabs for the failed Dutch lager, Parksider? Not Oranjeboom, then? Allied took a stake in Oranjeboom many years ago, but I don't think it made it to draught - at least not up here. As has been said Arctic Lite and Castlemaine added to the lager portfolio, but "SKOL" was the big seller.I really can't recall when, how or why that dissapeared, but then again some subjects are of no great interest to me.I think SKOL was o.g. 3.8 as were a lot of lagers...I think they sold at a premium too. I do recall "skol special strength" being created in bottles and cans but probably was no stronger than that Maize BrewI'm not anti-lager, I'm anti rip off XXXX (yes you are right that's what it stands for.So I award you a virtual bottle of "Duvel" in the classic glass. Get by the fire and sip it slowly now..... I had a glass of Grimbergen Tripel Bruin last night - head banging a bit this morning. I always thought that XXXX stood for lager, because the Aussies don't know how to spell it - like the Aussie jounros dubbed Vince Karalius "Wild Bull of the Pampas" because they couldn't spell Karalius. Nearly right with the XXXX ... it is Queensland's spelling of beer
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[quotenick="liits"] Hats Off wrote: Tetley’s hasn’t been much cop since the mid 80’s. I am lead to believe that Allied had done a deal to use some type Dutch hops for X number of years as opposed to the English grown Goldie hops that they had always previously used. This lead to the beginning of the decline of Tetley’s. It was certainly different in terms of looking after the stuff. No matter what you did, it tasted of nothing.My honestly held belief is that, now, it wouldn’t matter if it was brewed in Leeds, Wolverhampton or on the moon, it still wouldn’t be Tetley’s. While it’s true that that the water used in the process makes the world of difference, if the other ingredients – especially the one that makes the flavour [hops]- are cheap tat, the end product isn’t going to be any good. I don't recall anything about the change in hops Liits. I don't think the ingredients made much difference - even the water. We had a laboratory and it could fine tune anything to create what it wanted. We had boreholes for the local water we showed off to visitors, but we used a big sulphuric acid tank to treat townswater for the beer.The method of ageing the cask beer and placing finings to it to settle it, and then settling it in cellars gave way to just pumping the stuff in barrels, popping a few preservative tablets in and shipping it out same day. Landlord to put finings in.In my time 1970 on Tetleys found cask beer a darn nuisance and tried to discontinue it until CAMRA stopped them. After that they re-processed it to make it a lot easier to brew up and ship out as above.Many pubs were getting big on lager, many pubs had landlords who could look after boisterous clientele but not the beer. We got down to one Tetleys pub every 10 miles that had a landlord who could make something of the beer. Gaping Goose was where you could taste it at it's best also Regent Chapel Allerton.But it ended up an ordinary processed beer for many years brewed by people who didn't give a damn.The problem with nostalgia is it can often cloud the senses and you end up realising what you had, was nowhere near as marvellous as todays brews. Breathtaking beers breathtaking choice in which all the brewers kicked out of the industry by the money men like Ebbie Dinneson who pulled down the Duke William, and closed the Tetley Heritage Centre, have rescued the art of brewing and real ale.I'd suggest they should be supported to the hilt......
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Trojan wrote: I wasn't old enough to drink Melbourne, but I remember Hemingways (Leeds) Duttons (Leeds) Whitakers (Halifax) Websters (Halifax) Ramsdens (Halifax) Hammonds (Tadcaster) BYB (Woodlesford) Beverleys (Wakefield) all gone in the last forty years. Tro, I have a repro advert for Whittakers at "The Old Brewery Bradford"Was Duttons really Leeds????? I lived near "The Oakwood" and that was taken over by whitbread.Anyone know where Duttons were based????
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liits wrote: Duttons timeline.http://www.cottontown.org/page.cfm?page ... nguage=eng Your a genius Liits.So it was the Kirkstall Brewery Company.I do know they had a number of pubs. As kids we used to list the brewery names on pubs and petrol company names on filling stations (Esso, Jet, National, Fina, erm can't remember.....) whenever we did a car journey.Duttons was The Oakwood, and a 1936 takeover probably matches the possibility Duttons built the pub.O.B.J. on the gaffers numberplate I think is Oh Be Joyful a brew I have a beer label for. I also have one for Duttons Pale....Hanging on this I have Tetleys Pale Ale and Tetleys family Ale labels and I remember those being sold in the tall bottles (Landlord is sold in these Tro will know) in the sixties.After that I have a TETLEY special pale ale label from the seventies and I'm racking my brains to think if that was brewed in Leeds. It wasn't bottled at Leeds as the bottling plant had gone by then and we never did cans. I think I once looked out for "special" amongst all the fermenters and never saw it.SO (My humble opinion only in answer to a query above in this thread) I Believe Tetley Special Pale Ale was not a Tetley Beer, just labelled as such, and that the beer in bottles was awful to drink, and when it went to cans it became the vilest witches brew you could ever clap lips on. I remember it was often available free at do's at the Brewery and I never touched the stuff even then.Tetley's Imperial - now that was a beer.....
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The Parksider wrote: liits wrote: Duttons timeline.http://www.cottontown.org/page.cfm?page ... nguage=eng Your a genius Liits.So it was the Kirkstall Brewery Company.I do know they had a number of pubs. As kids we used to list the brewery names on pubs and petrol company names on filling stations (Esso, Jet, National, Fina, erm can't remember.....) whenever we did a car journey.Duttons was The Oakwood, and a 1936 takeover probably matches the possibility Duttons built the pub.O.B.J. on the gaffers numberplate I think is Oh Be Joyful a brew I have a beer label for. I also have one for Duttons Pale....Hanging on this I have Tetleys Pale Ale and Tetleys family Ale labels and I remember those being sold in the tall bottles (Landlord is sold in these Tro will know) in the sixties.After that I have a TETLEY special pale ale label from the seventies and I'm racking my brains to think if that was brewed in Leeds. It wasn't bottled at Leeds as the bottling plant had gone by then and we never did cans. I think I once looked out for "special" amongst all the fermenters and never saw it.SO (My humble opinion only in answer to a query above in this thread) I Believe Tetley Special Pale Ale was not a Tetley Beer, just labelled as such, and that the beer in bottles was awful to drink, and when it went to cans it became the vilest witches brew you could ever clap lips on. I remember it was often available free at do's at the Brewery and I never touched the stuff even then.Tetley's Imperial - now that was a beer..... Tetley Special Pale ale was horrible. On Wembley trips we would save over the year for ale on the bus usually a barrel of Double Diamond or two located in the boot with the pump on the back seat, Tetleys brewery donated a few crates of Pale Ale free gratis as we were valued customers. It came back with most of it unopened. Was it brewed in Warrington?
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geoffb wrote: 1. Tetley Special Pale ale was horrible. 2. Tetleys brewery donated a few crates of Special Pale Ale free gratis as we were valued customers. It came back with most of it unopened. 3. Was it brewed in Warrington? 1. No Geoff, it was worse than that.2. The opened ones no doubt were missing no more than a mouthful which no doubt didn't even get down the throats.3. I doubt it, I suspect Burton On Trent where they had a canning plant. I am not sure if it was even brewed, probably strained from the sewage plant and injected with CO2.No rose tinted glasses full of Tetley nostalgia for us eh?