Family History in Leeds

weenie · Post by **weenie** » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 10:36 pm

was wondering if someone could give me an outsiders point of view on a matter i have with a family member who's helping me with my family tree. I have a Sarah Broadbelt b1827 abbt Holbeck, married a George Peaker b1827 Crigglestone, dec 1852. on the 1861 census i have them Domestic Street, Holbeck. we have both got different idea's on the Sarah Broadbelt Parents, i have her, with her Father James BroadBENT. from the 1851 census although it says Hunslet she was born. my family member has her parents as Johnathon and Mary BroadBELT, this been sought by FreeBMD and Familysearch.org.... but this comes up with a Sarah Broadbelt, Christening 30 april 1823 Adel. and also the 1851 census has this part backed up. 4/5 years difference and the Area Holbeck/Adel too far apart But we cannot find anything else to concreat our findings. i have found others on a Sarah BroadBENT this been my finding because her son is listed as David Broadbelt Peaker B1855. holbeck but on his marriage index it has David BroadBENT Peaker. also i have found a 4th cousin, by connecting tree's and have been in contact with them and they have the same findings , plus thinking the mis spelt name.some outside of my family views/help on the matter would be greatly appriciated.thankyou

Steve Jones · Post by **Steve Jones** » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 11:47 pm

Hi weenie.I would go with BROADBENT as it is quite a common name in this region.I have never come aross Broadbelt , so although it should be wonderful to have a rare name to track down , I would think a census taker misheard it.

weenie · Post by **weenie** » Mon 23 Nov, 2009 11:52 pm

well that is what i thought although the index for her marriage is Broadbelt. thankyou Steve, oh just realised your a Jonesy too lol

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 24 Nov, 2009 12:32 am

weenie wrote: was wondering if someone could give me an outsiders point of view on a matter i have with a family member who's helping me with my family tree. I have a Sarah Broadbelt b1827 abbt Holbeck, married a George Peaker b1827 Crigglestone, dec 1852. on the 1861 census i have them Domestic Street, Holbeck. we have both got different idea's on the Sarah Broadbelt Parents, i have her, with her Father James BroadBENT. from the 1851 census although it says Hunslet she was born. my family member has her parents as Johnathon and Mary BroadBELT, this been sought by FreeBMD and Familysearch.org.... but this comes up with a Sarah Broadbelt, Christening 30 april 1823 Adel. and also the 1851 census has this part backed up. 4/5 years difference and the Area Holbeck/Adel too far apart But we cannot find anything else to concreat our findings. i have found others on a Sarah BroadBENT this been my finding because her son is listed as David Broadbelt Peaker B1855. holbeck but on his marriage index it has David BroadBENT Peaker. also i have found a 4th cousin, by connecting tree's and have been in contact with them and they have the same findings , plus thinking the mis spelt name.some outside of my family views/help on the matter would be greatly appriciated.thankyou The simple answer is to order the 1852 marriage certificate,this will name the father.Yorkshire BMD list the actual place that a marriage took place,in this case itsPEAKER George BROADBELT Sarah St Peter, Leeds Yorkshire BMD take their listings from the register in Leeds,rather and tends to be more accurate.Even if the surname is misspelt the fathers forename will not be so.Also the birth certificate of son David would show the mothers maiden name,there is virtually no chance of the same error on both the marriage certificate (George and Sarah)AND his (Davids)birth certificate.Also the 1871 and 1881 census show that Sarah is of Holbeck circa 1828.The Adel baptised one appears in the 1851 census born Alwwodley,this is confirmed in the Adel PR at the baptism (i have a transcript of the PRThere is a Sarah Broadbent in the 1851 census ,born 1826 Holbeck,with her mother Mary.http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx ... 77713There are two possible baptisms to go with thisSARAH BROADBENT Pedigree Christening: 07 MAY 1826 Saint Peter, Leeds, Yorkshire, England Parents: Father: DAVID BROADBENT Mother: MARY andSARAH ANN BROADBENT Birth: 13 JUL 1826 Christening: 15 AUG 1826 Wesleyan Methodist, Hunslet, Yorkshire, England Parents: Father: GEORGE BROADBENT Mother: MARY Someone on Ancestry has (this)Sarah as being part of their tree,but they youll see the link on the right of the 1851 census page result.Given the name of George and Sarahs first son,David,her plac eof birth as being Holbeck circa 1827 then i would guess that the baptism 07/05/1826,father David,could be the one.Go to the registry office in Leeds with these two references:-marriage:-PEAKER George BROADBELT Sarah St Peter, Leeds Leeds CE46/40/166 year 1852birth:-PEAKER David Broadblet Holbeck Leeds HOLB/25B/177 year 1855.£7.50 each,buth they will prove it either waay

weenie · Post by **weenie** » Tue 24 Nov, 2009 1:15 am

Thankyou CNOSNI much help once again, yes i think if i order David birth and marriage cert then it will say for sure. but it is a puzzle for me until i have them. as its funny that Sarah Broadbelt has vanished so to speak for most of her youth. will also pass this on to my sister

Lilysmum · Post by **Lilysmum** » Sun 29 Nov, 2009 3:07 pm

Just been looking on the Calverly info web site and there is now a searchable data base for vital records in the calverly, farsley pudsey etc. area.I have found quite a bit of family history info from this site and this makes it much easier to locate records.

ceejaylufc · Post by **ceejaylufc** » Sun 29 Nov, 2009 5:48 pm

Can I just say that if you go to the Registry Office in Leeds now, if you want any certificate for family history and you want it on the day it will cost you £15, not the £7 we are all used to paying there, apparently there are too many people coming in for family history purposes and "insufficient resources" according to the person I spoke to there. If you order by telephone or write in, still costs you £7 but if you go there on the day, its £15.

weenie · Post by **weenie** » Sun 29 Nov, 2009 6:30 pm

ceejaylufc wrote: Can I just say that if you go to the Registry Office in Leeds now, if you want any certificate for family history and you want it on the day it will cost you £15, not the £7 we are all used to paying there, apparently there are too many people coming in for family history purposes and "insufficient resources" according to the person I spoke to there. If you order by telephone or write in, still costs you £7 but if you go there on the day, its £15. yes i rang up to see if i needed an appointment as these things change as you can now register births at your local one stop centre, they said no but its cheaper to do it over phone or on line at leeds registry office, which cost me £7 each one, they said it takes 3-5 days too not bad i think, saves queing etc

Post by **cnosni** » Mon 30 Nov, 2009 5:26 pm

ceejaylufc wrote: Can I just say that if you go to the Registry Office in Leeds now, if you want any certificate for family history and you want it on the day it will cost you £15, not the £7 we are all used to paying there, apparently there are too many people coming in for family history purposes and "insufficient resources" according to the person I spoke to there. If you order by telephone or write in, still costs you £7 but if you go there on the day, its £15. that is a ridiculous amount.They are simply cashing in,if anything they are discriminating against FH researchers.People doing FH tend to have ordered certificates more than once and are able fill out the forms correctly,far more so than the once in a blue moon attendee to the reg office wanting a duplicate/replacement certificate.you always get the impression that Family Historians are treated begrudgingly,as if they are some sort of hinderance to their daily (not very hard) work load,sort like how train spotters and even passengers are treated on the railway.You also get some people that work in record officesthat you come across those who seem to take umbridge at actually having to do their chosen vocation.All this will do is mean that Family historians will catch on and order through the GRO online for £7.50.These tend to be better quality copies,usually with original writing and signatures etc,rather than the typed out one that 8 times out of 10 you get at Leeds Registry office.Eventually they wont need the Registry office counter etc,it will be all done online or by phone,so there will be staff no ,longer needed.You dont turn customers away,and we are after all their customers.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Mon 30 Nov, 2009 5:39 pm

I am not being pedantic but it's only £7 when you order through the GRO online. It's easy to do (must be cause I can manage it) Michael