Family History in Leeds

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 7:51 pm

Carolynne wrote: Marriage certificate - If a woman has been married before would her previous marriage name or maiden name be on her new marriage certificate?Thanks in advance Hi Carolynne.The previous married name will appear but so to will the maiden name as the father is named in full on any marriage certificate.

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 7:53 pm

Carolynne wrote: uncle mick wrote: Carolynne wrote: uncle mick wrote: Carolynne wrote: Marriage certificate - If a woman has been married before would her previous marriage name or maiden name be on her new marriage certificate?Thanks in advance Her previous married name in my experience Thanks Uncle Mick - another question..... If someone died in WW1 would they still be entitled to a pension?Cheers Do you mean a Widows pension ? The Widow got a pension depending on her circumstances (number of children etc) Yes, I beleive so - would I find this on ancestry.co.uk? There are some pension records on Ancsetry,related to some war records.However it may be best to check the National Archives for their records as they will have just about everything thats available to the public.

Post by **cnosni** » Tue 07 Jul, 2009 7:59 pm

Briggy wrote: Have just been looking at the Genuki census records for Central Leeds, Wortley and Bramley for 1891. I'm staggered to see that at a time when I thought travel was expensive, just how many 'comers in' there were from all over the place eg.Bull and Mirth Hotel, Briggate had a barmaid from Perth Australia, a cook from Calcutta, India, another barmaid from Sydney Aus, other workers from Warrington, Shrewsbury, Rotherham and Sheffield.I see that Wortley also seems to have a population from a widespread area with one domestic servant from Brooklyn, New York ! In fact servants from one road in Wortley came from Shropshire, Huntingdonshire, Peterborough, Shrewsbury and Lincoln.I realise that before the welfare state people had to go for jobs wherever they could, but surely there were domestic jobs and general labourer's jobs closer to home than these? Also, residing in Wortley was a boiler maker from Carlisle whose wife was from Edinburgh, with children born in Darlington, Newcastle and then Leeds. This is only one example from many similar. How did these people originally meet?Bramley by contrast seems not to have attracted as many outsiders.Could any family historian on this site enlighten me as to why there seems to have been more social mobility than there is today? We must remember that the north was THE place for jobs in the 19th century.In a complete reversal of the current situation,many people moved from the south seeking employment in the north,where the industrial revolution was mainly based,and as a cosequence so were the job prospects.I was interested to find out that there was virtually no deep sea fishing fleet in Hull until an expansion of this type of fishing began to take off,and that there was a very large amount of fishermen from Kent who relocated to Hull in search of employment.The trade then took off as it was manned cheaply by people who would work for very little,making the boat owners much better off and then able to expand their business even further.

stutterdog · Post by **stutterdog** » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 12:04 am

sundowner wrote: Si wrote: Yes, it was a bit grim, Hats Off. Interesting to notice a block of Glasgow-style tennements (unless it's a mill.) It was not a mill you are right they are tennements i remember them very well they were there when i moved to Saxton Gardens in fifty nine. Hello Si,you would'nt happen to have a map of Burmantofts would you? I'm looking for my Mothers birthplace in 1911.The name of the place is Barkers Buildings.It must have been a pretty grim place because my Granny had 8 children between 1899 and 1912 and only 3 survived!

Si · Post by Si » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 10:11 am

stutterdog wrote: sundowner wrote: Si wrote: Yes, it was a bit grim, Hats Off. Interesting to notice a block of Glasgow-style tennements (unless it's a mill.) It was not a mill you are right they are tennements i remember them very well they were there when i moved to Saxton Gardens in fifty nine. Hello Si,you would'nt happen to have a map of Burmantofts would you? I'm looking for my Mothers birthplace in 1911.The name of the place is Barkers Buildings.It must have been a pretty grim place because my Granny had 8 children between 1899 and 1912 and only 3 survived! Hi Stutterdog. Burmantofts is on Godfrey's 1908 OS map. Do you know which street Barker's Buildings was on, as individual buildings are not named? I'll try and post the relevant bit.Cheers,Si.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 11:01 am

stutterdog wrote: sundowner wrote: Si wrote: Yes, it was a bit grim, Hats Off. Interesting to notice a block of Glasgow-style tennements (unless it's a mill.) It was not a mill you are right they are tennements i remember them very well they were there when i moved to Saxton Gardens in fifty nine. Hello Si,you would'nt happen to have a map of Burmantofts would you? I'm looking for my Mothers birthplace in 1911.The name of the place is Barkers Buildings.It must have been a pretty grim place because my Granny had 8 children between 1899 and 1912 and only 3 survived! In Kellys directory of Leeds for 1908 Barkers Buildings is listed as been at 34 Burmantofts Street.Hope this helps. Michael

Si · Post by Si » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 12:51 pm

uncle mick wrote: stutterdog wrote: sundowner wrote: Si wrote: Yes, it was a bit grim, Hats Off. Interesting to notice a block of Glasgow-style tennements (unless it's a mill.) It was not a mill you are right they are tennements i remember them very well they were there when i moved to Saxton Gardens in fifty nine. Hello Si,you would'nt happen to have a map of Burmantofts would you? I'm looking for my Mothers birthplace in 1911.The name of the place is Barkers Buildings.It must have been a pretty grim place because my Granny had 8 children between 1899 and 1912 and only 3 survived! In Kellys directory of Leeds for 1908 Barkers Buildings is listed as been at 34 Burmantofts Street.Hope this helps. Michael Thanks Uncle Mick, it does. You're lucky, Stutterdog. Barker's Buildings does actually appear on the map as a street name. It is second on the right as you would have travelled up Burmantofts Street from the junction with York Road/Quarry Hill. I'll try and post it, but I can't promise anything - new computer!

Si · Post by Si » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 12:56 pm

I've scanned the map, but it seems to have disappeared into the ether! Can anyone else help?

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 1:12 pm

Send me it si and il try and post it for you mate.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 20 Jul, 2009 1:23 pm

Brandy wrote: Send me it si and il try and post it for you mate. Err...can't. It's not posting it to the site that's the problem (this time!!!) I've scanned it but I can't find where it's gone on the computer. I've tried my pictures, etc, and the printer's software - nowhere to be seen! Shall I put the map in the post? PS. Stutterdog - have you had a look on Leodis? I've had a quick decko, but all I can find is the York Road/Burmantofts Street junction area (Woodpecker, etc.) However, there is a 1963 aerial shot showing the area, but by then it's all changed - Ebor Gardens, etc.