Golden Fleece Inn

Mangrove · Post by **Mangrove** » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 2:14 pm

HelloForgive me not taking time to explore & understand the forum thing as I should but I think from the brief look I've had, someone may be able to send me in the right direction. I am putting together a family history presentation for my father (87) and have found out from British Newspapaer Archives and ancestry.com that my great (4 times) grand father lived in or owned the Golden Fleece in Kirkgate in the late 1700's. David Kirkman. His grandson emigrated to South Australia in 1858 making me a 5th generation Aussie. I am back in the UK in May and this has fired up my thirst for more knowledge on the family in Timble Bridge, Parish of St Peter's.Can anyone enlighten me so I can pass on a few anecdotes at my father's testimonial?Thanks in advance.Mangrove

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 3:35 pm

http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 3:41 pm

Hi Chrism. I found these pics too, but the pub is on Briggate. Mangrove gives an address of Kirkgate, so I searched Drapesy's "Pubs of Kirkgate" thread, where the Golden Fleece is about the only one he has no information on, unfortunately!However, he does mention a pub called "The Lamb" on Timble Bridge. Quotes from Drapesy on page 1 of the thread:"As yet unplaced;Golden Fleece (1797 dir)"...and..."Lamb. This pub was located at 4 Timble Bridge (Pearson and White (1830) calls it 4 and 5 Timble Bridge- but sometimes described as 'Kirkgate'. It must have been near the 'Old Willow Tree' and the present 'Palace'. It should not be confused with the 'Lion and Lamb'There was also a pub at No. 20 Timble Bridge called the 'Spinner's Arms'."

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:06 pm

A search for Timble Bridge on Leodis brings up several pictures, including this one. Click on the red X to view.The caption reads:"14th April 1905. Steander Bow, looking east towards towards Steander Lane. The name is a derivation of 'Stony Place'. Including Fearnes Island, this is the area where Sheepscar Beck (also known as Lady Beck, Timble Beck) meets the River Aire. In Medieval Leeds the water flow under Timble Bridge was used to power a water mill. Fearnes Island was named after the owner of nearby Nether Mills. This view shows cottages, with building spanning the road to create 'Bow or Archway'."

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:12 pm

This 1906 map shows Kirkgate heading down towards East Street and Lady (or Timble) Beck. Timble Bridge isn't named but must be in this area.

Mangrove · Post by **Mangrove** » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:17 pm

Thanks for the feedback. I should have given a little more detail. I may be wrong about it being in Kirkgate.I've found from newspaper archives and Bain's History index that it was at the "bottom of Ebenezer Street" ... and it is also showing as 7 Cross Street, Lady Lane. Maybe that puts it in a different part of leeds?

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:22 pm

Here's Timble Bridge on the 1847 map. The Lamb Inn is marked, as is The Palace, which of course is still there.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:34 pm

Mangrove wrote: Thanks for the feedback. I should have given a little more detail. I may be wrong about it being in Kirkgate.I've found from newspaper archives and Bain's History index that it was at the "bottom of Ebenezer Street" ... and it is also showing as 7 Cross Street, Lady Lane. Maybe that puts it in a different part of leeds? A little to the north, not far away. The pub must be "The Fleece Inn" long demolished. There have been two Millgarth police stations built on the site one after the other since!

Si · Post by Si » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:48 pm

The Fleece Inn can be seen on the 1847 map. Also visible is Lady (Timble) Beck, Lady Lane and Ebenezer Street. Kirkgate is bottom left corner of the map. There is another thread on here entitled "Millgarth Police Station Area". If you type Ebenezer into the search facility on here, you should find it. There's more info on this area on there.

uncle mick · Post by **uncle mick** » Mon 02 Apr, 2012 4:49 pm

[quotenick="Mangrove"]Thanks for the feedback. I should have given a little more detail. I may be wrong about it being in Kirkgate.I've found from newspaper archives and Bain's History index that it was at the "bottom of Ebenezer Street" The Harewood Arms was at the "bottom of Ebenezer Street"http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... 3_35132998