SecretLeeds - History, culture and architecture in Leeds

Liits fine overlay of a small part of kirkstall road from years ago showed you could once do a pub crawl within a couple of hundred yards of your house.The 1850 town maps on "old maps" show all the old pubs although Liits had researched the lot! Wonder why several pubs in Leeds are connected to the name Scarboro, along Hunslet Road I noticed Scarboro Castle inn and wasn't there one on Armley Road.Why so many pubs? I can recall my old aunties tiny Hunslet back to back. No radio, no TV so what to do - talk to the missus?? Seems down the pub was the way. Today men and women communicate better (or do they?) and the house has several TV's Playstations, computers, a fridge stocked with beer etc and a back garden with a barbecue - why go to the pub?.Why did you use to go to pubs and why not now? Why don't your older kids go?? how has socialising for you changed, and on a more technical basis what ws the difference between beer house, public house, Inn, tavern, hotel and on the latter subject what did a temperance hotel do bsides being "dry". Leeds was one littered with all these establishments now the biggest thread is how they are all going.Mindst you in the latest jobs recession that has started and will continue for some time I guess plenty of people will end up wasting their redundancy money on trying to re-open pubs whilst the franchising pub companies get rich. Is this merely trying to recreate the past? Anyone know anyone/anywhere where a shut down pub is a gold mine for the tenant again?

Thanks to Parkside and his kind comments, I’ve tried a somewhat larger version. I’ve also tried this “snipurl” thing so it may or may not work.http://snipurl.com/27tgyj    

We were trying to remember some pub names recently-can anyone remind me of the previous names of the Leeds Rifleman and of the Merrion Centre "Threepenny Bit"/General Wade/Admiral Benbow? Not sure if last 2 are right.Thanks, vjs

Parksider,the answer to our query as to why so many pubs,lies in the Beerhouse Act which allowed anyone to set up a place for selling beer.This meant anyone could brew or sell beer so many people started seling from home which gradually turned into pubs.This is why you have a lot of victorian pubs in terraces as they started as beerhouses.people brewed their own back then and sold it to friends,neighbours etc

vjs wrote: We were trying to remember some pub names recently-can anyone remind me of the previous names of the Leeds Rifleman and of the Merrion Centre "Threepenny Bit"/General Wade/Admiral Benbow? Not sure if last 2 are right.Thanks, vjs Other names for the General Wade, Nautical Wheel and Box Office

the Rifleman used to be the Windsor Castle. Don't know why, no obvious local connection.

Steve Jones wrote: Parksider,the answer to our query as to why so many pubs,lies in the Beerhouse Act which allowed anyone to set up a place for selling beer.This meant anyone could brew or sell beer so many people started seling from home which gradually turned into pubs.This is why you have a lot of victorian pubs in terraces as they started as beerhouses.people brewed their own back then and sold it to friends,neighbours etc Steve - can you expand??Just beer??? Any hours restrictions or other rules and regs???

uncle mick wrote: vjs wrote: We were trying to remember some pub names recently-can anyone remind me of the previous names of the Leeds Rifleman and of the Merrion Centre "Threepenny Bit"/General Wade/Admiral Benbow? Not sure if last 2 are right.Thanks, vjs Other names for the General Wade, Nautical Wheel and Box Office Where was the "Leeds Rifleman" - interested because the territorials who my dad joined were mainly this regiment, and therefore a very "leeds" regiment indeed....

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PsrksiderThe original 1830 Beer Act was designed partly as a measure to curry favour with the people by reducing the price of beer, partly to incourage beer drinking over spirit drinking (particularly gin). Any ratepayer could apply for a licence for an annual fee of 2 guineas. Beer duty was abolished, though there was still duty on malt & hops. Beerhouses had to close between 10pm & 4am on weeekdays, and could only open 1-3pm and 5-10pm on a sunday. Public ahouses only had the restriction of being closed during sunday morning church service. Later Bills changed hours and conditions, and some beerhouses later applied for public house licences. One point i am not quite clear about is whether cider was included as being allowed to be sold.