Leeds lost pubs

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 9:10 pm

Thanks for that Ian.Hers's the leodis pic of the Fox in Woodhouse with Melbourne signs.I was aware of the Springhill- and theres is an old building on Buslingthorpe lane that looks promising - I'll take a pic of it as soon as I can and you can see what you think.There is a picture on Leodis of a pub they call the 'Springhill Tavern' but I think this is an error and it is actually the 'Springfield Tavern' in Burley.

iansmithofotley · Post by **iansmithofotley** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 9:43 pm

Hi Drapesy,I remember The Fox very well when Minnie Green was the landlady in the 1960's. In my previous post I was referring to The Grapes, which was further along Woodhouse Street, just above the Marquis of Lorne (Johnny Benns) and on the same (St Marks) side of the road, opposite the Jubilees.Ian.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 9:54 pm

And here is 'The Grapes' - and what a marvellous building it was! I love that ornate gable - and the sign! John Smith's beer though...!

zip55 · Post by **zip55** » Sun 24 Feb, 2008 11:37 pm

talking of 'foxes' and 'grapes' .. anyone remember the Fox & Grapes at Barwick-in-Elmet? It used to have a go-kart track out the back (mid-sixties). I could never find any reference to it on Google, and wasn't sure if I'd remembered it right, but sure enough, a quick 'Google map' and you can make out the track indentations in the overgrown field at the back of pub.

Ollie · Post by **Ollie** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 3:41 am

What about the Central Market...round from the Corn Exchange on the corner of Boar Lane and Central Rd...long skinny Pub, there was an alley way that went through to Briggate at the end. Had my first pint in there, tender age of 15..still boozing in there 3 years later. Madge the barmaid nearly dropped when I told her it was my first legal pint on my eighteenth birthday...is it still going or has it met its demise..Many moons ago my granddad was the head barman in the Market Tavern (Mad House)..great pub if you knew who you where talking to.

Steve Jones · Post by **Steve Jones** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 1:01 pm

Not quite sure if this belongs on here, but I didn't want to start a new thread.are there any pubs still using handle pint mugs nowadays or do they all use "sleeve" glasses?I was offered the choice in a pub in North Devon last year much to my amazement (and just after I was moaning on the way in about nobody using them anymore!).I mentioned the other night about the Devon pub and was asked if there were any locally.

electricaldave · Post by **electricaldave** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 2:21 pm

I remember a time during the late 1970's when CAMRA first got going the straight glass was very much under threat South of Birmingham.The brewers were busy trying to force keg beer on us all and amalgamating like crazy, and I suppose they must have seen the straight glass as old fashioned.I tend to associate dimple beer mugs with 'bloody Watney's Red Barrel', Actric Lite and all that sort of criminal offence to the world of beeer.I'm glad that the straight glass has regained its prominance, however, I would not be at all surprised to find its due to them being easier to collect - reduced labour costs - and also you can get more of them into a dishwasher than mugs that have handles on.As for the glass lager steins, I would expect that these are even less easy to clean, store and collect - as the base is wider than the mouth.

stevief · Post by **stevief** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 9:11 pm

Steve Jones wrote: Not quite sure if this belongs on here, but I didn't want to start a new thread.are there any pubs still using handle pint mugs nowadays or do they all use "sleeve" glasses?I was offered the choice in a pub in North Devon last year much to my amazement (and just after I was moaning on the way in about nobody using them anymore!).I mentioned the other night about the Devon pub and was asked if there were any locally. Hi Steve.I think some pubs keep them for old-timers who have a preference.I was served with one in the Adelphi last year(I'm NOT an old-timer it was just bad luck!).The Whitelocks used to have loads of 'em and they were hung up to dry(in the cigarette smoke) on small hooks in the ceiling.

Post by **chameleon** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 9:25 pm

zip55 wrote: talking of 'foxes' and 'grapes' .. anyone remember the Fox & Grapes at Barwick-in-Elmet? It used to have a go-kart track out the back (mid-sixties). I could never find any reference to it on Google, and wasn't sure if I'd remembered it right, but sure enough, a quick 'Google map' and you can make out the track indentations in the overgrown field at the back of pub. Fox and Grapes, p'raps better said to be on York Road more than in Barwick but yes, I'd forgotten about that.It is still vissible isn't it? I was never able to try it though, but I think it was out of use by the early 60's and by that time the landlady was even reluctant to let you out there on foot!

stevief · Post by **stevief** » Mon 25 Feb, 2008 9:45 pm

chameleon wrote: zip55 wrote: talking of 'foxes' and 'grapes' .. anyone remember the Fox & Grapes at Barwick-in-Elmet? It used to have a go-kart track out the back (mid-sixties). I could never find any reference to it on Google, and wasn't sure if I'd remembered it right, but sure enough, a quick 'Google map' and you can make out the track indentations in the overgrown field at the back of pub. Fox and Grapes, p'raps better said to be on York Road more than in Barwick but yes, I'd forgotten about that.It is still vissible isn't it? I was never able to try it though, but I think it was out of use by the early 60's and by that time the landlady was even reluctant to let you out there on foot! I understand many years ago motorcycle scrambling used to take place behind the Royalty pub atop Otley Chevin.My Grandfather told me the story so it could well be pre-war.It's a popular clay-pigeon shooting area now-or was.