Pubs and lost pubs in and around Otley.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 2:11 pm

I think you've missed four lost Otley pubs off your list, Drapesy. I don't know where they were, or when they shut, though.The George.The Wharfedale (not the one in Arthington.)The Wheatsheaf.The Staff Inn. I think the Queen's Arms you referred to was actually the Queen's Head.Don't know if it's true, but I heard that the Dyneley Arms burnt down because someone lit a real fire in a purely cosmetic fireplace. The flags cracked with the heat, and the fire fell into the cellar, causing the conflagration.AFAIK, the Hunter's is still a biker's pub. The main biker's pub is/was The Sun up at Norwood.I have a picture of the pre-1901 Black Horse somewhere. I'll try and find it. It was a much simpler building.The Melbourne Vaults changed it's name to simply The Vaults when it was taken over by Tetley's. The Bay Horse uses it's gents toilet facilities across the ginnel.The buildings to the left of your picture of the Yeoman were originally three cottages, and are older than the main part of the pub. The building to the left (out of shot) was a bar-house for the Leeds Road turnpike, opened c1840. Another still exists at the junction with Leeds Road and Old Pool Bank, by the bridge abutments. Across the road from the pub was a Co-Op and an orchard, hence Orchard House and Orchard Street. Nice to see Brian's chariot parked outside! He sets the questions for quiz night.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 2:29 pm

The Summercross, c1889. I'm told it gets it's name from a long-lost ford across the Wharfe nearby, which was only passable in the summer months, and used for driving livestock from north of the river to Otley market. The building has since gained a pair of ground-floor bay-windows.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:06 pm

Si wrote: I think you've missed four lost Otley pubs off your list, Drapesy. I don't know where they were, or when they shut, though.The George.The Wharfedale (not the one in Arthington.)The Wheatsheaf.The Staff Inn. I think the Queen's Arms you referred to was actually the Queen's Head.Don't know if it's true, but I heard that the Dyneley Arms burnt down because someone lit a real fire in a purely cosmetic fireplace. The flags cracked with the heat, and the fire fell into the cellar, causing the conflagration.AFAIK, the Hunter's is still a biker's pub. The main biker's pub is/was The Sun up at Norwood.I have a picture of the pre-1901 Black Horse somewhere. I'll try and find it. It was a much simpler building.The Melbourne Vaults changed it's name to simply The Vaults when it was taken over by Tetley's. The Bay Horse uses it's gents toilet facilities across the ginnel.The buildings to the left of your picture of the Yeoman were originally three cottages, and are older than the main part of the pub. The building to the left (out of shot) was a bar-house for the Leeds Road turnpike, opened c1840. Another still exists at the junction with Leeds Road and Old Pool Bank, by the bridge abutments. Across the road from the pub was a Co-Op and an orchard, hence Orchard House and Orchard Street. Nice to see Brian's chariot parked outside! He sets the questions for quiz night. Many thanks for this and all your input Si, I'll amend the 'Queen's' entry. and I'll certainly look into the other pubs you mention.In the meantime here are some odds and sods I couldn't fit in the main piece.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:10 pm

Plaque outside the Bowling Green detailing its history ( had to shimmy over a wall to get this!) (The last line is incorrect)

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:16 pm

Wonderful'retro' Tetley's sign at the back of the Black Bull (1960s I'd guess)

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:25 pm

Sign detailing the special opening hours that many Otley pubs once enjoyed - and the all-day drinking on Mondays and Fridays was especially attractive! The advent of 24 hour licensing has made these signs redundant of course - and I only know of 2 survivors. This one, outside the Red Lion and a simpler, more modern looking, one on the side of the Woolpack. [ note for newer Secret Leeds members who may not be aware - double clicking on the image will bring up a full size version which is much easier to read]

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:33 pm

Faded painted sign on a pillar leading to the White Swan's former stables

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:39 pm

Sun faded sign outside the Summercross.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 9:44 pm

Another shot of the back of the Bay Horse - This is a Leodis pic from the 1970s (exact date unknown) when it was , rather bizarrely. painted dark blue. [ I'm loving that guy's yellow jacket and baggies!!!]

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Mon 22 Dec, 2008 10:44 pm

Was this the picture of the Original Black Horse you were thinking of Si??? it dates from c1894.