Pine Apple Inn, Quarry Hill

[Si]

chemimike wrote: With regard to barkers buildings, the 1872 directory lists the following;BARKER'S BUILDINGS.(34 Burmantofts street.)1 Holdsworth Richard, grocer •2 Noble Mrs Mary4 Kay John, basketmaker So nothing to do with Barker's Yard then? Slobblox! Dee - please ignore previous pics of Barker's Yard area!Here's Barker's Buildings, Burmantofts Street, 1906 OS map. (Click on the image to enlarge it - Barker's Buildings is (are?) just above centre.)    

[Si]

Taking into account Cnosni's theory that the Pine Apple was nearer the St Peter's Street junction than the other two proposed sites so far, I think I've found another possible site, marked pink on the above map. 1: The frontage on the map fits the photo if the door on the right is a covered ginnel, and not next door's entrance.2: Crucially, look at the photo of the back door(s) and compare to the map. Two small walls are marked protruding from the "ginnel" entrance - they appear to be there in the pic.3: Except for the toilet (which isn't shown seperately on the map) the buildings at the back on both sides also seem to fit.Any thoughts?    

[Si]

Note one of the parallel walls between two rear doors?

[cnosni]

Si wrote: Taking into account Cnosni's theory that the Pine Apple was nearer the St Peter's Street junction than the other two proposed sites so far, I think I've found another possible site, marked pink on the above map. 1: The frontage on the map fits the photo if the door on the right is a covered ginnel, and not next door's entrance.2: Crucially, look at the photo of the back door(s) and compare to the map. Two small walls are marked protruding from the "ginnel" entrance - they appear to be there in the pic.3: Except for the toilet (which isn't shown seperately on the map) the buildings at the back on both sides also seem to fit.Any thoughts?     Pink one looks best,its got a gap to access the rear,and what would appear to be the Brewhouse.Also to the right of the possible brewhouse is waht lokks like next doors outside toilet,as can be seen in the picture looking down towards St Peters Street.The pink property also has the potential back door in the correct position,looks good to me mate.

[cnosni]

Having said that Si the High Street photo seems to show a door rather than a ginnel entrance to the right (as you look at the pic).Note what appears to be a 3 pane window above the door/ginnel,this 3 pane window appears above the door of the Pineapple and the property to the left (as you look at the pic)

[DEE]

A big thanks for those pics and info Si, they are really interesting and I can now picture where Myrtle St was. My ancestor moved from there to Wingham Terrace and looking at the pic of Wingham, I guess Myrtle must have been pretty bad! Thanks also for the map showing Barkers buildings (thanks Chemimike for cracking that one), I was double interested in that as I spotted another ancestral street (Springfield St) on it too.

[The Parksider]

Si wrote: Almost exactly the same view in 1906, during demolition. The area we were discussing appears to have been pulled down.     Come on Si - you can't post that piccy without explaining what the two people are doing?

[jim]

While we wait for Si to tell us, I'll have a guess, Parksider - they have decided that the space left after demolition will be ideal for Maypole Dancing - and have realised that it will be easier to erect the pole before the houses are knocked down!Any more suggestions?

[Si]

How did you guess, Jim? That's exactly what it says on the Leodis caption!

[Si]

DEE wrote: A big thanks for those pics and info Si, they are really interesting and I can now picture where Myrtle St was. My ancestor moved from there to Wingham Terrace and looking at the pic of Wingham, I guess Myrtle must have been pretty bad! Thanks also for the map showing Barkers buildings (thanks Chemimike for cracking that one), I was double interested in that as I spotted another ancestral street (Springfield St) on it too. Here's a pic of Myrtle Street, Dee. (From Leodis, where there's loads more.)