Leeds lost pubs

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 11 Jul, 2010 11:11 am

I've had a pint or too in the Pointers. A very old building I believe. An Irish pub, of course, like many others current and lost in the area.

Good-Honest-Iago · Post by **Good-Honest-Iago** » Sun 11 Jul, 2010 7:31 pm

remember this place much more myself. Pointers was a bit more down the road.Harry turned a blind eye to me sat in the tap room while my dad was in the lounge/upstairs doing business with him.........not so bad I know but I was bored to death most of the time.

FLOJO · Post by **FLOJO** » Mon 12 Jul, 2010 6:10 am

Good-Honest-Iago wrote: remember this place much more myself. Pointers was a bit more down the road.Harry turned a blind eye to me sat in the tap room while my dad was in the lounge/upstairs doing business with him.........not so bad I know but I was bored to death most of the time. My uncle Reg Richardson worked at the skinners late 50's early 60's, as a barman I remember him with those metal elastic things on his arms to hold his shirt sleeves up.

DEE · Post by **DEE** » Mon 19 Jul, 2010 11:19 pm

I am trying to find out the name of a pub that an ancestor ran in Leeds in 1865. The pub was at 1 Cross Cemetery St Leeds. This street no longer exists but it was in the Woodhouse/University area. Does anybody have an old map of Leeds showing where it was? I know it still existed in 1914 but looks like it is not in existence now. Also any Leeds historians out there who may know the name of this lost pub? The Landlord ancestor was a famous world champion bare knuckle (and gloved) boxer called Jem Mace if that is of any help?

dogduke · Post by **dogduke** » Mon 19 Jul, 2010 11:28 pm

Try this one,mentions the Packhorse publichouse in 1904http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... FULLShould be some thereabouts

chemimike · Post by **chemimike** » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 12:18 am

It looks like cross cemetery st is now under the engineering dept. of the university. There is no mention of a pub in the street in directories in 1853, 1872 or 1893. the map is 1908.

jim · Post by **jim** » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 12:45 am

I recall in the 1940s "Jem Mace" being used as rhyming slang for "face".

DEE · Post by **DEE** » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 1:29 am

Thanks for that info Dogduke, Chemimike and Jim. That solved my mystery about the street location very quickly! I am reading a book on Jem and it says " By 1865 Mace had taken a pub in Leeds, where his friend Harry Montague lived. Montague operated various business ventures fron the Ship Inn in Briggate. Mace's pub was in Cross Cemetery Street and he gave boxing lessons there to the wealthy local men. Another book gives the following info- "1865August 7, daughter Amelia Martha Mace born—1 Cross Cemetary Street, Leeds. Birth certificate records Father-James Mace (Inn keeper) mother Hannah Mace nee Boorn”. I did read that Jem Mace was rhyming slang for face but its great to hear that someone has actually heard it said as I wondered if it was just a bit of a myth. I just need to find the name of the pub now.

jim · Post by **jim** » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 9:56 am

Hi Dee, the term was used by my mother ( born and brought up in Estcourt Terrace, Headingley ) to my brother and I as children in Ben Rhydding, Ilkley in the 1940s. The context would be " Come on, let's wash your Jem Mace".

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Tue 20 Jul, 2010 12:50 pm

jim wrote: Hi Dee, the term was used by my mother ( born and brought up in Estcourt Terrace, Headingley ) to my brother and I as children in Ben Rhydding, Ilkley in the 1940s. The context would be " Come on, let's wash your Jem Mace". Small World Jim - did you by any chance go to Ben Rhydding School ?? I was there from 1941 to 1947 and have the most vivid and enjoyable memories of loads of things that we experienced there.