Leeds lost pubs

simonm · Post by **simonm** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:29 pm

The smoking ban is but just one ickle nail in the coffin of the local! Weather that came in or not the state of the pub would not change.

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:40 pm

Lilysmum wrote: I was in Tenerife when Spain introduced the smoking ban in bars etc and no smoking notices were up everywhere.A year later because of a massive drop in trade it all changed and if a bar owner put up a notice to say this IS a smoking bar then people can make up their own minds as to whether they want to go in.I don't know if this was legit or just a case of people taking the bull by the horns and risking a fine but the bars that allowed smoking seemed to be doing a much better trade.It makes sense to me to do the same here as judging by the amount of people who stand outside pubs now there are a lot of us sinners around. Whatever happened to "Freedom of choice" ?

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:45 pm

simonm wrote: The smoking ban is but just one ickle nail in the coffin of the local! Weather that came in or not the state of the pub would not change. this may be the case simon but it still speeded up the process, i see pub closed that were thriving boozers before the ban! but hey, i'm just a filthy smoker! Who cares what i think? not the government thats for sure!

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:47 pm

by the way, i noticed the land the shaftsbury once occupied has been bought by a healthcare organisation! whats with that??

simonm · Post by **simonm** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 1:54 pm

rangieowner wrote: simonm wrote: The smoking ban is but just one ickle nail in the coffin of the local! Weather that came in or not the state of the pub would not change. this may be the case simon but it still speeded up the process, i see pub closed that were thriving boozers before the ban! but hey, i'm just a filthy smoker! Who cares what i think? not the government thats for sure! Me neither ya smelly t**t.. Seriously, it probably has sped up the closure of many pubs, but take a look at the supermarkts for the major impact. Case of stella for a Tenner. Buy two cases of beer for 15 quid. The megolomaniac greed of the supermarkets are killing society that we remember. Couple that with the younger kids growing up only ever seeing the inside of a supermarekt for it's weekly shop and the problem becomes compounded further...So stop whinging ya bleeding lepper!!

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 2:00 pm

Hey! i ain't whinging! just an observation thats all! hardly ever frequent drinking establishments anyway, can't afford it!! but good point well made. i just think the social aspect was winning for the pubs but the smoking ban kicked that in the nuts!!

vjs · Post by **vjs** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 2:39 pm

Some years ago we had a good choice of pleasant,ordinary pubs offering decent beer,usually cask, in comfortable tho not luxurious surroundings,without loud music or noisy gambling machines.Many of these havens no longer exist,or,like most in our Leeds 2/6 area,have become completely student-oriented.We resorted to using clubs(WMCs etc)-not ideal,we do prefer the pub atmosphere-but now even these are anxious to attract younger people by installing juke boxes etc.We just want to enjoy a quiet drink! If anyone knows where this can still be had we'd love to know-please share your secret if you have one.Regards,vjs

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 2:57 pm

rangieowner wrote: by the way, i noticed the land the Shaftesbury once occupied has been bought by a healthcare organisation! whats with that?? Yes rangie and it's a private one n'all by the look of it.i wouldn't mind but they have just moved the doctors from the building next to the starlight,to a new state of the art building on Ozzy lane! but they doesn't seem to be owt wrong with the old building??infact it was only built around 1975'ish,and it looks alright to me.

rangieowner · Post by **rangieowner** » Wed 01 Oct, 2008 11:16 pm

they've just too much money they have!! lol!

ackers72 · Post by **ackers72** » Sun 05 Oct, 2008 8:40 pm

Here is a good pic to bring back memories for you all, its the Oak Tree/Courtier pub at Gipton, I found it on KF Leeds phtotstream on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/23757949@N06/Take a look he has good stuff. Can anyone give any info on when this pub closed or any other relevant info.