The Bay Horse Briggate - then and now.

drapesy · Post by **drapesy** » Sun 12 Oct, 2008 12:09 am

cnosni wrote: drapesy wrote: And finally a shot looking back up the yard to Briggate. The evidence of the 'beer drops' to the cellar can still be seen on the ground. The lamps are electric, sadly. So who/what occupies the building now Drapesy?Is it part of a shop or is it completely seperate? To be honest I'm not sure if it belongs to 'Envy' -(a boutique which is on the left side of the entrance to bay horse yard) or Borders, which is the next shop to Envy, but has a fire exit onto the yard and is a larger shop. I suspect it belongs to Borders.

LS1 · Post by **LS1** » Sun 12 Oct, 2008 7:48 pm

I think it belongs to Borders. I remember when I went down the alley one of the Borders people was looking out of the window and seemed surprised to see me. Well done on the pics though Drapesy. Really hard to get a good angle as the alley is so narrow!

Si · Post by Si » Mon 13 Oct, 2008 9:38 am

cnosni wrote: sundowner wrote: drapesy wrote: and heres a shot of the side - despite its sad state down a rubbish-strewn alley you can still see that this was quite a good building in its day - and its stood the test of time - I would guess its Georgian. Hi drapesy The building is three storeys high this is a good indicater that it could be Georgian. The windows, if original,could be early victorian.Its certainly within a 30-40 year window (like that eh eh?)of late Georgian and the early Victorian.The bricks appear similar to those in Crown Court,is our very own brick expert Si watching? Looks Georgian to me. I think the windows have been replaced, but the fact that they're quite flush with the brickwork are typical of this period. The bricks and general proportions look to be the same era, too.

Si · Post by Si » Mon 13 Oct, 2008 2:43 pm

drapesy wrote: Leodis has 2 pictures of the pub when it was still open.This rather evocative shot down the alley... In this shot, there are men with a measuring stick. Most pics on Leodis which feature this, show buildings being measured prior to demolition. However, the Bay Horse is still there, so what were they measuring it up for?

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Mon 18 Oct, 2010 9:01 pm

When on Briggate yesterday (Oct 17 2010) I suddenly had a thought, which was "Didn't there used to be Bay Horse Hotel yard or similar and if so is it still there?". I quickly spotted the site and when I was back on Briggate today I took the image here. It shows the key pad entry door which presumably leads to what is still there of the yard. I had thought of posting a thread but felt sure there would already be something in Secret Leeds about the yard and I found this thread.I recall there used to be a metal gate only a few years back that barred entry to the yard, which I sadly never went in and so all I ever saw of the yard was from a look through the gate.

anthonydna · Post by **anthonydna** » Mon 18 Oct, 2010 9:48 pm

A little more detail from Leodis1st March 1907 Bay Horse Yard with Bay Horse Hotel showing. Also visible is a sign for S.Plant working jeweller. The Bay Horse closed shortly after this photo was taken. A plaque remains sited above the entrance to the Yard which reads 'Bay Horse Hotel - Molineaux', Molineaux being a former licensee of the pub.

liits · Post by **liits** » Tue 19 Oct, 2010 8:06 am

I can’t think why I’ve never noticed this thread before....The Mollineaux’s got around a bit in terms of pubs. The last Mollineaux to be a licensee of the Bay Horse was Anna. Born in 1831 she had three sons and a daughter. In the 1860’s her husband, James, was the licensee of the Shakespeare Tavern on York Street where the family lived. By the 1870’s they’ve moved to the Seven Stars in Dock Street which is more or less where, just of Briggate, the Bay Horse was. In the 1881 census she shows up as living with her son at the Crown Hotel on Kirkgate in Wakefield and living with one of her sons, David [he's the licensee, not Anna]. Maybe somebody can confirm that this is when the area around Briggate and the county arcade was being re-built. By the 1900’s she back in Leeds and is the licensee of the Bay Horse. Her sister also lives with her at the premises [her husband being dead by this time].The last time she is listed as a licensee is at the turn of the century when she is the licensee of the Dyer’s Arms, Kirkstall Road.By this time she may have been the licensee in name only as she was 70 and her address is actually Grove House, Shadwell

Chrism · Post by **Chrism** » Tue 19 Oct, 2010 12:06 pm

By 'eck she was knocking on a bit. Born in 1831 and back in Leeds in the 1990's.

anthonydna · Post by **anthonydna** » Tue 19 Oct, 2010 1:14 pm

159 and still had her own teeth !

liits · Post by **liits** » Tue 19 Oct, 2010 8:55 pm

Ok, funny so & so's, I've changed it!