Dialect/slang

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 02 Mar, 2008 3:13 pm

arry awk wrote: Ey-up Trojan!Naw, Ah've noan eered on it beforeAnother great bit of old Yorkshire.Thanks! Doesn't sound a lot likeLeeds dialect but probably Leeds in the early 20th centurydo you think?Sounds more like North Yorkshire,Harrogate,York etc. Wonder if the poet was referring to Leeds ParishChurch? It's in the Diocese of Ripon. Somebody will have the answer!Are you claiming to be the oldest SL poster then? If so,thash'll efta beat 20/01/30! (Me Ma's 'farrowin' down' date in St.Mary's!) Ah-ll Sithee later!Arry No I'm obviously not the oldest - but I bet I'm not so far off. We had this record and it was on the Picadilly label, it was a 78, and even in the fifties it was an old record. It had Leeds Owd Church on one side and a romantic ballad on the other, I've tried numerous ways to find out who it was by and failed. I put the title into Google and that poem is what came up, you're right about the accent, it's about a Wensleydale lad spending some time in Leeds.One line from the song in the record sticks in my memory,it mentions "mi billycock on" Now I believe "billycock" is a dialect word for a bowler hat - you may be able to tell me whether that's right or wrong (wrang )

arry_awk · Post by **arry_awk** » Sun 02 Mar, 2008 5:43 pm

Yer dead reet Trojan!Billycock hats were bowlers, sometimes known as 'Derbys' Origins unknown I'm afraid!Glad I 'twigged' the N.Yorks accent!Another slang word in Leeds is 'Gipping' (as in slipping)To Gip is to feel like retching after a bad pint or seeing anasty sight!78 records. How about 'The Laughing Policeman'by Charles Penrose? (I hear Ravey Davey gives anexcellent rendering of this!).We had Gracie Fields too, 'Biggest Aspidistra in the world'and 'Poor baby has slipped down the plughole' 'Salleeee',too!Worth a bomb these days,those that survived.Arry

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Sun 02 Mar, 2008 6:24 pm

arry awk wrote: Yer dead reet Trojan!Billycock hats were bowlers, sometimes known as 'Derbys' Origins unknown I'm afraid!Glad I 'twigged' the N.Yorks accent!Another slang word in Leeds is 'Gipping' (as in slipping)To Gip is to feel like retching after a bad pint or seeing anasty sight!78 records. How about 'The Laughing Policeman'by Charles Penrose? (I hear Ravey Davey gives anexcellent rendering of this!).We had Gracie Fields too, 'Biggest Aspidistra in the world'and 'Poor baby has slipped down the plughole' 'Salleeee',too!Worth a bomb these days,those that survived.Arry We had a big pile of old 78's when I was a kid, some pretty old. The Ballad of the Trumpeter is one that sticks in my mind. We also had Stanley Holloway's "Albert and the Lion" which although about a Lancashire couple is also very remeniscent of the way my parents and uncles and aunties used to speak as in "mother said ee I am vexed"

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Mon 03 Mar, 2008 8:34 pm

I don't come from Leeds hence the nick name, but my wife does and I've lived here for 25 years.Most of these words apply to yorkshire/west yorkshire/the north of enegland in general.but there are words that I find peculiar to leedsI've often wondered where the word 'doylem' came from. I've never heard it used outside of leedsalso 'to squat something-to hide it. I can figure out why it's called that, but again never heard it outside leeds.

Leeds lass in Oz · Post by **Leeds lass in Oz** » Wed 05 Mar, 2008 10:54 am

I grew up in East Leeds and we always went Chumpin in the October half term holiday for bonfire night. If you took chums froms someone else's fire you'd get chinned or nacked. Ahh you don't hear that in Canberra.... Fond memories.

Si · Post by Si » Wed 05 Mar, 2008 2:37 pm

Another slang word in Leeds is 'Gipping' (as in slipping)To Gip is to feel like retching after a bad pint or seeing anasty sight!'Ey up, Arry!I believe "gipping", or "I feel a bit gip", or "gippy tummy" was originally coined in the army and is a shortened form of "Egypt," referring to the dodgy grub to be found when stationed there!SiWhat about "Ge'rout a'road!" or "Am I in yer road?" meaning "Get out of the way," or "Am I in your way?" - not necessarily used when driving!

arry_awk · Post by **arry_awk** » Thu 06 Mar, 2008 4:57 pm

Si,Actually(!) the word used in Leeds is 'Gip' (as in Gipton),using a hard 'G'.The phrases 'Giving me Gyp' and 'Gyppy tummy' ,aremore universal, using the 'J' sound. Heard those UK-wideAND in the Canal Zone! ('Lamp swingers'-fall out!).Sand in my shoes - and other places!Arry

fevlad · Post by **fevlad** » Thu 06 Mar, 2008 5:10 pm

actually gipping-retching isn't peculiar to leeds, same with tummeling(tumbling) to fall. Words like this are found throughout yorkshire

Trojan · Post by **Trojan** » Thu 06 Mar, 2008 10:00 pm

fevlad wrote: II've often wondered where the word 'doylem' came from. I've never heard it used outside of leeds. I am a Leeds lad (well Morley) who supports Fev. I've certainly heard the word "doylem" in Fev - used to describe me by a Cas fan

Post by **cnosni** » Fri 07 Mar, 2008 12:46 am

Leeds lass in Oz wrote: I grew up in East Leeds and we always went Chumpin in the October half term holiday for bonfire night. If you took chums froms someone else's fire you'd get chinned or nacked. Ahh you don't hear that in Canberra.... Fond memories. Hello Leeds lass in OzChumpin wer for Bonfire night,and yes i got knacked on a few occasions.Arry awk,you have a lot to answer fo',mecking mi type ow a speak.