Dialect/slang

Hats Off · Post by **Hats Off** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 1:50 pm

When Barfly wrote "but anyone from Leeds would recognise me as a fellow Leodian", I found it interesting because I was always told from a young age that a person from Leeds is called a Loiner, infact Leodian is a somewhat new term to me, is it anything to do with the term Leodensian ? Are Leodensians old puplils of Leeds grammar school ?Regards.

BarFly · Post by **BarFly** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 2:16 pm

To be honest they're both new[ish] to me -- I'd lived here for years without knowing the term for a person from Leeds. My understanding, though I obviously could be very wrong, is that Loiner is the older and probably original term. Looking at the ever-present Wikipedia it seems Leodensian is the other correct term. I think Leodian is something I picked up from the name of a member of this site so it's probably not correct but I like the sound of it better. Could have sworn I've seen or heard it elsewhere though so it may be a new coining from Leodis.(Probably Leodian can answer)

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 3:25 pm

Hiya BarFly.When I joined the SL forum I tried several variations of Leeds (including such as Loiner) for a member name but all had been taken. I just thought of Leodian and was surprised that it had not been used, so it became my SL name. I have no idea if Leodian is a term for someone from Leeds. Intriguingly it was quite some time after I joined that I realised Leodian had a lot more connection to myself than I realised. Leo is my star sign and the rest has one of my names!

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 6:16 pm

BJF wrote: I think "Can I get" is an Aussie thing that was picked up from "Neighbours". The only good thing to come from Neighbours was Kylie Minogue....

tilly · Post by **tilly** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 8:29 pm

Hats Off wrote: When Barfly wrote "but anyone from Leeds would recognise me as a fellow Leodian", I found it interesting because I was always told from a young age that a person from Leeds is called a Loiner, infact Leodian is a somewhat new term to me, is it anything to do with the term Leodensian ? Are Leodensians old puplils of Leeds grammar school ?Regards. I should think Leodian comes from the old name for Leeds Leodis i could be wrong.

book · Post by **book** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 8:37 pm

Old Leo's is the club house of the old grammar school so old leos is a term used by them. I've played rugby at the club againsts the old boys. It also features in one of the Leeds Band, Keiser Chiefs songs, I predict a riot, Smeaton, an old leoensian. No doubt that Leodis is the old term for Leeds.

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:05 pm

BLAKEY wrote: In Ilkley (and elsewhere no doubt) in the 1940s/50s/60s the local branch of the Leeds Industrial Co-operative Society was always referred to as "Cwarp" (as in "warped") or "Stooers." Cuop in Morley where I come from - corp in Hemsworth where my mother came from. Incidentally Hemsworth and the areas around Barnsley were the last bastions of the Co-op shops as we used to know them. All operated in those days by Barnsley British Co-operative Society with much higher divi than we had in Morley.

majorhoundii · Post by **majorhoundii** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:10 pm

jdbythesea wrote: I think it's fair to say, certainly from what I've seen on TV over the years, that most Casting Directors wouldn't know a Yorkshire accent from a Manchester one. The "North" is just one region to them.Variations can be too subtle to spot by an outsider - an example might be the pronunciation of NOWT. It sounds very different on our side of the Pennines than on the other. JD I think you're right. Basically I reckon people from south of Derbyshire can't tell the difference.Frank Randall the Wigan born comic was a big star on the northern halls - but the management wouldn't let him go south of Nottingham on the basis that no one would be able to understand him.The problem with Corrie is that "Weatherfield" is really Salford and apart from the "late" Jack Duckworth, I don't reckon any of the current lot speak with a proper Manchester/Salford accentAs Blakey says I reckon Audrey is the worst - but then she is handicapped by being The Honourable Susan Harmer Nicholls - daughter of a Tory cabinet minister from the sixties.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 9:51 pm

majorhoundii wrote: jdbythesea wrote: I think it's fair to say, certainly from what I've seen on TV over the years, that most Casting Directors wouldn't know a Yorkshire accent from a Manchester one. The "North" is just one region to them.Variations can be too subtle to spot by an outsider - an example might be the pronunciation of NOWT. It sounds very different on our side of the Pennines than on the other. JD I think you're right. Basically I reckon people from south of Derbyshire can't tell the difference.Frank Randall the Wigan born comic was a big star on the northern halls - but the management wouldn't let him go south of Nottingham on the basis that no one would be able to understand him.The problem with Corrie is that "Weatherfield" is really Salford and apart from the "late" Jack Duckworth, I don't reckon any of the current lot speak with a proper Manchester/Salford accentAs Blakey says I reckon Audrey is the worst - but then she is handicapped by being The Honourable Susan Harmer Nicholls - daughter of a Tory cabinet minister from the sixties. And Mrs Popov from Rentaghost....

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Fri 24 Aug, 2012 11:19 pm

majorhoundii wrote: [ Incidentally Hemsworth and the areas around Barnsley were the last bastions of the Co-op shops as we used to know them. All operated in those days by Barnsley British Co-operative Society with much higher divi than we had in Morley. Barnsley British Co-operative Society at one time operated a fine fleet of coaches on excursion and private hire work - they were in a simple but smart light fawn livery IIRC.