Dialect/slang

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Fri 13 Apr, 2012 5:51 pm

I was a teenager at the time and course, I went out a lot at weekends to night clubs. My poor mam used to sit up and wait for me to come home. When you're younger, danger doesn't really register 100% and it's only when you've kids of your own that you understand just how worried the parents of daughters at that time must've felt.I didn't know about Marguerite Walls til around 1985. Wonder if they kept it quiet because she wasn't a lady of the night?I used to feel quite sad passing the house.Change of subject...The bakery with the mother and son...I can see her now and him. What a pair He was always so jolly and moved so quickly! His mam seemed to order him about which used to make me want to laugh. Both were pleasant though and always chatty.I miss the little shops.Supermarkets do my head in. Hate 'em. Not cheap either, we're just brain washed by them. The future will belong to Asda, Tesco etc and choice will be gone forever.

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 6:14 pm

I was pondering today why my mother (who'd be 87 now), ALWAYS referred to the time as, "Five and twenty to" or "Five and twenty past".Is this how past generations were taught to say it? (her sister used to say it also). Or is it a Leeds way?Strange the things you remember once they're no longer with you.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 6:45 pm

CaronThat does sound familiar, think my elders said it that way.I annoy my (late teen) brood by saying "it's quarter to" / "twenty past" etc if they ask the time.I then wait for the retort of 'TWENTY PAST WHAAAAAAT?'They never wear watches "there's a clock on my mobile"...

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 7:31 pm

Caron wrote: I was pondering today why my mother (who'd be 87 now), ALWAYS referred to the time as, "Five and twenty to" or "Five and twenty past".Is this how past generations were taught to say it? (her sister used to say it also). Or is it a Leeds way?Strange the things you remember once they're no longer with you. Or those who say it's thirty five minutes past........Regarding the first part,I'm not sure but the German language would be used thus...funf(5) und(and) zwanzig(20) for 25.Always putting the second figure first.Strange bedfellows those Germans !I always meet the lads around "3 bells"Just little quirks we have I guess.Makes the lingo interesting at times !

jdbythesea · Post by **jdbythesea** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 8:13 pm

Caron wrote: I was pondering today why my mother (who'd be 87 now), ALWAYS referred to the time as, "Five and twenty to" or "Five and twenty past".Is this how past generations were taught to say it? (her sister used to say it also). Or is it a Leeds way?Strange the things you remember once they're no longer with you. I don't know about older generations but I say it that way too and always have done. Mrs JD, who comes from Lancashire via Newcastle has never got used to it even after 40-odd years. Mind you, she says Chips and Fish and also calls pork crackling 'scranching' ? Funny thing local language isn't it?

stutterdog · Post by **stutterdog** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 8:16 pm

somme1916 wrote: Caron wrote: I was pondering today why my mother (who'd be 87 now), ALWAYS referred to the time as, "Five and twenty to" or "Five and twenty past".Is this how past generations were taught to say it? (her sister used to say it also). Or is it a Leeds way?Strange the things you remember once they're no longer with you. Or those who say it's thirty five minutes past........Regarding the first part,I'm not sure but the German language would be used thus...funf(5) und(and) zwanzig(20) for 25.Always putting the second figure first.Strange bedfellows those Germans !I always meet the lads around "3 bells"Just little quirks we have I guess.Makes the lingo interesting at times ! From the old nursery rhyme, Four and twenty black birds baked in a pie!

Johnny39 · Post by **Johnny39** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 8:19 pm

Caron wrote: I was pondering today why my mother (who'd be 87 now), ALWAYS referred to the time as, "Five and twenty to" or "Five and twenty past".Is this how past generations were taught to say it? (her sister used to say it also). Or is it a Leeds way?Strange the things you remember once they're no longer with you. It is the way I would say it Caron, I think it could be an age thing. Have you also noticed how the word "fortnight" is being used less and less? If you use the word in the good old U.S. of A. they think you are from another planet.

Caron · Post by **Caron** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 8:40 pm

Thank you for your replies. It does seems to me a complicated way of teaching/learning it though.And.... I don't know anyone who uses the term "Fortnight". It's always "Two weeks". Mind you, when you look at the word, Fortnight, it's a strange word to describe 2 weeks. Looks german too.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 9:43 pm

Caron wrote: Thank you for your replies. It does seems to me a complicated way of teaching/learning it though.And.... I don't know anyone who uses the term "Fortnight". It's always "Two weeks". Mind you, when you look at the word, Fortnight, it's a strange word to describe 2 weeks. Looks german too. You mean you're not looking for'ard to a fortnight at Reighton Gap lass? Eeeh, when I were a lad we could only dream of a fortnight away, best we could hope for was a walk to Roundy Park* and a slice of drip bread for tea.I say five and twenty to / past as well, primarily because I like the sound of it, plus the added advantage of it annoying mrs ravey. I also like to use the work 'betwixt' rather than 'between' for the same reasons.I think it's definitely an age thing that will eventually die out - although introducing a touch of Dickenseque speech to everyday conversation does no harm at all.* - I was about ten before I realised it was actually called Roundhay Park

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Tue 21 Aug, 2012 9:51 pm

raveydavey wrote: Caron wrote: Thank you for your replies. It does seems to me a complicated way of teaching/learning it though.And.... I don't know anyone who uses the term "Fortnight". It's always "Two weeks". Mind you, when you look at the word, Fortnight, it's a strange word to describe 2 weeks. Looks german too. You mean you're not looking for'ard to a fortnight at Reighton Gap lass? Eeeh, when I were a lad we could only dream of a fortnight away, best we could hope for was a walk to Roundy Park* and a slice of drip bread for tea.I say five and twenty to / past as well, primarily because I like the sound of it, plus the added advantage of it annoying mrs ravey. I also like to use the work 'betwixt' rather than 'between' for the same reasons.I think it's definitely an age thing that will eventually die out - although introducing a touch of Dickenseque speech to everyday conversation does no harm at all.* - I was about ten before I realised it was actually called Roundhay Park Yes raveydavey,agree about the age thing.Me and mates still say we're banna do this,banna do that etc14days = fortneetand I'll meet you at qwarta t'six !