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http://www.bbc.co.uk/archive/steamtrains/index.shtmlThe four steamers has a link to the Middleton Railway, very slight, it's still a nice film wher ethe subject is shown without endless prattle to fill the soundtrack.

Thanks for this, many more hrs to be spent in front of computer screen with my "Anorak" on.

A little different but perhaps worth a watch for entertainment at least, the Top Gear team v the Tornado.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8106414.stm    

chameleon wrote: A little different but perhaps worth a watch for entertainment at least, the Top Gear team v the Tornado.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8106414.stm     And the Vincent Black Shadow & Jaguar XK120I'll take all 3 on in our XKR.................... if someone else pays the fuel-bill!

chameleon wrote: A little different but perhaps worth a watch for entertainment at least, the Top Gear team v the Tornado.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8106414.stm     That was absolute tosh!!!! Tornado had an huge lead which evaporated for no apparent reason! Yes I know Tornado had some problems on that trip (or was that just for drama?) But in a true race i would back Tornado to win that race any day of the week!! P.S. It is my understanding that because Tornado meets modern standards of Elfin safety, it is limited to 90 mph NOT 75mph as stated on TG and most of the story JC spouted about tornado's conception and birth were absolute BS!!! Rant over, for now!!

rangieowner wrote: chameleon wrote: A little different but perhaps worth a watch for entertainment at least, the Top Gear team v the Tornado.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8106414.stm     That was absolute tosh!!!! Tornado had an huge lead which evaporated for no apparent reason! Yes I know Tornado had some problems on that trip (or was that just for drama?) But in a true race i would back Tornado to win that race any day of the week!! P.S. It is my understanding that because Tornado meets modern standards of Elfin safety, it is limited to 90 mph NOT 75mph as stated on TG and most of the story JC spouted about tornado's conception and birth were absolute BS!!! Rant over, for now!! I noticed that. May passed Hammond 20 miles South of Doncaster and Hammond broke down 10 miles further on. By this point Clarkson was 30 miles North of York (some 70 miles ahead at lease). The half hour coal and water stop off did not adequately explain this. Then May says he passed Clarkson???????

Reginal Perrin wrote: rangieowner wrote: chameleon wrote: A little different but perhaps worth a watch for entertainment at least, the Top Gear team v the Tornado.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8106414.stm     That was absolute tosh!!!! Tornado had an huge lead which evaporated for no apparent reason! Yes I know Tornado had some problems on that trip (or was that just for drama?) But in a true race i would back Tornado to win that race any day of the week!! P.S. It is my understanding that because Tornado meets modern standards of Elfin safety, it is limited to 90 mph NOT 75mph as stated on TG and most of the story JC spouted about tornado's conception and birth were absolute BS!!! Rant over, for now!! I noticed that. May passed Hammond 20 miles South of Doncaster and Hammond broke down 10 miles further on. By this point Clarkson was 30 miles North of York (some 70 miles ahead at lease). The half hour coal and water stop off did not adequately explain this. Then May says he passed Clarkson??????? Must have been a blooming clear A1 Regi - ther'e still parts of it that take forever, this side of the M25 and uptowards Newcastle and after that - Think I'd go with the loco too and even if it was a set-up, was nice to see the thing performing (and JC getting his hands dirty!).

in the days of steam the engine would not need to stop for water this would be picked up from water troughs so it would be well in front. still a great programe.

trophy wrote: in the days of steam the engine would not need to stop for water this would be picked up from water troughs so it would be well in front. still a great programe. That's true, but they also took on coal. What puzzled me was that in the days of steam "The Flying Scotsman" was booked non stop London to Edinburgh by using the corridor tender - so why did Tornado which presumably was pulling a tender of equal capacity to that used in those days need to replenish its coal?

trophy wrote: in the days of steam the engine would not need to stop for water this would be picked up from water troughs so it would be well in front. still a great programe. Ah, the glory days of water troughs eh ?? I remember when i was a kid we used to make frequent trips to London to see relations. In those days it was the wonderful A4 Gresley Pacifics - Sir Nigel, Woodcock etc etc - and in the lovely LNER teak coaches with the windows open on hot days we often got drenched as the engine dropped its scoop at. I believe, Essendine to take on water. No-one seemed to mind in those days.