Bus Lane cameras to earn the council revenue?

[BJF]

If you are driving a car you must be fully aware of your surroundings. You must be prepared. That twit will turn in front of you without indicating. That pedestrian may be deaf. So blasting your horn is not a substitute for driving with due care and attention.    

[tyke bhoy]

Bruno wrote: as far as I can see, and I've been perfectly legal driving on the bus lanes on Sunday afternoons. Bruno I think the only place you may come a cropper outbound is on the approach to the Clarendon Road Junction just before Woodhouse Moor. The bus lane here is open to all other traffic but all that other traffic has an enforced left turn into Clarendon Road. Inbound I think the only gotcha may be the bus lane between the onslips for the inner ring road in front of the Multi Storey. Again all traffic on the inside lane other than buses has an enforced turn eiither into the multi storey or onto the IRR eastbound. The bus lane then has a priority light at the pedestrian crossing from the Dry Dock to the multi storey main pedestrian entrance. Outer lane traffic wanting the IRR Westbound must then cross the bus lane. Chameleon wrote: Non the less I suspect that in any procedings that ignoring even an advisory signal would be seen as negligence and have an effect on the outcome of any proceedings both criminal and those of the civil gompensation-culture nature. Agreed Chameleon. If someone recklessly crosses or enters the road when there is an advisory against it i.e. a red figure then this would certainly help a car drivers defence. Pedestrians should apply the same caution as to crossing where there is no advisory (no crossing) as they would when crossing against an advisory and only slightly less caution when crossing with an advisory (green man)

[jdbythesea]

We're staying at my daughters in Liverpool this week (half-term grandson duties). I noticed when we got off the M62 that more ordinary traffic than usual was using the bus lanes. I understand that Liverpool City Council is running a trial allowing all traffic to use them. Afterwards it may be the end of the road for bus lanes (on Merseyside at least)!The trial period has only recently begun so results won't be known for a while yet. Anyone heard of anything similar likely to occur on the home front?

[Jogon]

jdbythesea wrote: We're staying at my daughters in Liverpool this week (half-term grandson duties). I noticed when we got off the M62 that more ordinary traffic than usual was using the bus lanes. I understand that Liverpool City Council is running a trial allowing all traffic to use them. Afterwards it may be the end of the road for bus lanes (on Merseyside at least)!The trial period has only recently begun so results won't be known for a while yet. Anyone heard of anything similar likely to occur on the home front? BUS LANES OTLEY ROAD LEEDSINBOUND 0730 - 0930 ONLY ie 2 hour rush hour morning onlyOUTBOUND 1630 - 1830 ONLY ie 2 hour rush hour evening onlyBut cars never go in them outside of this periodresult blocked roads 24/7

[buffaloskinner]

Otley Road has always been blocked, its a bottleneck. Before Bus Lanes it was blocked with traffic so that really not relevant to the argument. Kirkstall road was also the same, wherever there is a dual carriageway going into a single lane on a busy road it soons becomes blocked

[Jogon]

I know that parts of Otley rd (North Lane to Hyde Park) are one lane but the 2 lane of which there is plenty is rarely used, yet always busy.At the mo there are 2 lanes inbound from the Ring Road to Shaw Lane. Bags of room. Empty.It's a bus lane from 0730am to 0930am, but cos of over-zealous policing a few years back no one ever goes in it.Likewise outbound from Merrion Centre to Hyde Park corner 1630 to 1830 only.Outside of that, again busy road yet never used.Crazy, tho I accept easier for buses and cyclists perhaps.Huge waste overall though, were just not using the roads wisely. Better still the sensible "tidal" system Morning - 3 lanes in; Evening 3 lanes out.We don't really need a supertram...