The dreaded FIRST BUS!

headingleylad · Post by **headingleylad** » Fri 15 Jun, 2012 2:29 pm

I have heard rumours from other sites, that The Dreaded First are pulling out of York and other cities throughout Britain because they are not making enough profits. No chance for West Yorkshire as it is seen as very lucrative.

BIG N · Post by **BIG N** » Fri 15 Jun, 2012 7:56 pm

Loiner1960 wrote: So all the extended bus stops from Whimoor to Pudsey are now defunct! Because the double deckers are back. And the York FTR's are already running in Leeds. Hopefully the cost of sorting out the bus stops and where the 72 will terminate when these bendy buses are used will be sorted out. Remember the 72 starts in Leeds Bus station and ends in Bradford Bus station. Worst won't be able to use these with the purple slugs... Loiner, The extended bus stops were not specifically introduced for the sole use of the purple slugs, this is something that all "marked" bus stops ( I.E. ones with a yellow or white box and the words bus stop painted on the road ) will have to have by 2015. Its all to do with Euro rulings on access etc, the idea being that there should be enough room for a bus to pull in parellel to the curb and be able to pull out easily again, the same ruling also states that all curbs will be raised to step level and all service buses will be low floor entery.As for the 72 service not being able to use the two relevent bus stations along the route, as Blakey points out, the leeds terminus is intended to be East Gate in Leeds but as the Interchange has drive through bays this shouldn't be a problem in Bradford. First have indeed put everything North of Leicester up for sale with the exception of their First Leeds and First Manchester operations, not certain yet if First Leeds is to become First West Yorkshire under the reorganisation but as yet non of the First buses in Huddersfield, Halifax or Bradford are sporting the New First livery so its not looking good.The York slugs have been transferred to Leeds simply because the York operation is up for sale and I suspect removing them from the fleet makes it more attractive to potential buyers, I guess First are stuck with them as I cant see any right minded operator wanting to buy them.

Post by **chameleon** » Sat 16 Jun, 2012 11:15 pm

Messages moved here to existing thread -FlickerfreeUser Location: Joined on: 10-Apr-2012 09:02:19Posted: 10 posts # Posted on: 16-Jun-2012 20:28:42. Edit | Quote First bus question again just seen a first bus with the name Matthew Lewis on the side, who is he? Flickerfree CardiarmsUser Location: Joined on: 21-Oct-2008 13:00:01Posted: 2194 posts # Posted on: 16-Jun-2012 20:48:36. Delete | Edit | Quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Lewis_(actor) LeodianUser Location: LeedsJoined on: 10-Jun-2010 12:33:50Posted: 2256 posts # Posted on: 16-Jun-2012 20:49:37. Delete | Edit | Quote Flickerfree wrote: First bus question again just seen a first bus with the name Matthew Lewis on the side, who is he? I wondered if it might be the Matthew Lewis who played Neville Longbottom in the Harry Potter series of films. On checking I've found he was born in Leeds so it presumably is him.Edit moments after posting. Oops Cardiarms beat me to it. I must type faster! FlickerfreeUser Location: Joined on: 10-Apr-2012 09:02:19Posted: 10 posts # Posted on: 16-Jun-2012 20:56:02. Delete | Edit | Quote I think you could be right, it me i have not seen any of the HP films Flickerfree Top

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 3:44 pm

I had yet another abominable experience of this Outfit's atrocious service yesterday evening. Returning from a weekend away my friend dropped me in City Square for the number 19 Ireland Wood bus - a route which has to survive evenings and Sundays on an hourly frequency. I waited in Infirmary Street from about 1910 for the 1924 bus - which was shown on the real time display as progressing nicely in decreasing minutes and "due" at 1923. My heart sank as the next display showed " 4 minutes", then "three minutes" and then again "four minutes" and, at 1924 when it was due, as was another service for Halton Moor which did arrive and leave OK, it disappeared from the display never to return. I know from many previous episodes that this means its not coming at all. Like a fool - there's no fool like an old fool - I waited until 1945 "just in case" and then hurtled to the station for the 1954 train - price 90p thank you very much. This means that there was a two hour gap in the already pitiful Ireland Wood service.Mind you, if the gaudily and expensively painted heap HAD arrived it would have been plastered with assurances about "Welcome aboard" and "First, transforming travel" etc etc If I was to hazard a guess, based on long and bitter experience of this Firm I would gamble that this journey is the start of the second half of a late turn and that it couldn't be covered - the descending minutes on the display gives the game away and suggets that it was running from Colton or wherever to Town and then taken out of service. Of course there are no means now, due to all the cuts, of informing the public and I understand from reliable follks "in the know" that most if not all of the few remaining inspectors are to be made redundant !!

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 4:57 pm

BLAKEY wrote: I had yet another abominable experience of this Outfit's atrocious service yesterday evening. Returning from a weekend away my friend dropped me in City Square for the number 19 Ireland Wood bus - a route which has to survive evenings and Sundays on an hourly frequency. I waited in Infirmary Street from about 1910 for the 1924 bus - which was shown on the real time display as progressing nicely in decreasing minutes and "due" at 1923. My heart sank as the next display showed " 4 minutes", then "three minutes" and then again "four minutes" and, at 1924 when it was due, as was another service for Halton Moor which did arrive and leave OK, it disappeared from the display never to return. I know from many previous episodes that this means its not coming at all. Like a fool - there's no fool like an old fool - I waited until 1945 "just in case" and then hurtled to the station for the 1954 train - price 90p thank you very much. This means that there was a two hour gap in the already pitiful Ireland Wood service.Mind you, if the gaudily and expensively painted heap HAD arrived it would have been plastered with assurances about "Welcome aboard" and "First, transforming travel" etc etc If I was to hazard a guess, based on long and bitter experience of this Firm I would gamble that this journey is the start of the second half of a late turn and that it couldn't be covered - the descending minutes on the display gives the game away and suggets that it was running from Colton or wherever to Town and then taken out of service. Of course there are no means now, due to all the cuts, of informing the public and I understand from reliable follks "in the know" that most if not all of the few remaining inspectors are to be made redundant !! Poor chap............sounds about right Blakey.This excuse of a public transport company does all within it's power to absolutely naff you off.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 8:23 pm

To be fair Worst are "transforming travel" - just not in the positive way the slogan would have you believe...Mrs ravey had the misfortune to rely on their "services" the other day - £2 to go a mile and a half and they wonder why passenger numbers are falling.....

headingleylad · Post by **headingleylad** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 8:36 pm

Got on a No 1 bus from Holt Park today running 10 minutes late, I had waited 25 minutes for a bus on a supposed 10 minute or less service. It followed a No 6 and X84 down Otley Road from the Ring Road at two stops it flew past stops that people had clearly put their hands out for, a good bus service for anybody wanting to the Leeds Railway Station and beyond as both the No 6 & X84 go down Eastgate to the Bus Station.

somme1916 · Post by **somme1916** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 9:30 pm

headingleylad wrote: Got on a No 1 bus from Holt Park today running 10 minutes late, I had waited 25 minutes for a bus on a supposed 10 minute or less service. It followed a No 6 and X84 down Otley Road from the Ring Road at two stops it flew past stops that people had clearly put their hands out for, a good bus service for anybody wanting to the Leeds Railway Station and beyond as both the No 6 & X84 go down Eastgate to the Bus Station. Yes, I think some of their drivers have selective blind spots at times.Trouble is......they no longer have any pride or loyalty to the company that employs them.It's probably because they don't look after them properly as valuable company employees ?

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Mon 18 Jun, 2012 11:47 pm

[quotenick="headingleylad"It followed a No 6 and X84 down Otley Road from the Ring Road at two stops it flew past stops that people had clearly put their hands out for, a good bus service for anybody wanting to the Leeds Railway Station and beyond as both the No 6 & X84 go down Eastgate to the Bus Station. Also you can't board the X84 (inwards) after Ring Road. I can't argue with this limited stop arrangement on the way OUT of Leeds because we can't expect people for Otley, Ilkley and Skipton to be left behind if the bus were to be full of local short riders - but there should be no restriction on the way into Leeds.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Tue 19 Jun, 2012 9:13 pm

The 64/65 Aberford / Barwick / Scholes services also used to be limited stop before / after the Highways flats on York Road for the same reason.That stopped long ago though, so now you'll have the splendid sight of a single decker on this service slogging up York Road full to the brim, whilst near empty 56's (with an identical route all the way up York Road to Cross Gates) trundle along behind it.