Isle of Cynder

Si · Post by Si » Fri 28 Sep, 2012 9:45 am

Jogon wrote: The Leodis image shows a pitchback/fed from above+rear waterwheel used to pump water from the River. I love the idea of using a water-wheel to pump water from a river. And I thought perpetual motion was a physical impossibility!

BJF · Post by **BJF** » Fri 28 Sep, 2012 8:20 pm

I was looking at my Ordnance survey street map book for Leeds and on page 211 it shows the area where ASDA HQ is as "School Close"

tuskey · Post by **tuskey** » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 3:19 pm

Jogon wrote: Could someone with a trade journal or similar get an address for "...the premises of J. Boardman, cooper, underneath the railway arches.."This may have been Swinegate or Tenter Lane.Just trying to get a then + now fix on this leodis photo'Concordia Mills'Description:c.1890. View looks across a weir which spans a mill race. This water had been diverted from the River Aire to power several mills in the area between Sovereign Street and Swinegate, including Concordia Mills, seen towards the left. In the background are the premises of J. Boardman, cooper, underneath the railway arches.I'm guessing it is roughly from the Pitt Row car park / back of Bibis. hi nick=jogon, i find all this very interesting, in the 60's i worked at j. holder in pitt row, which changed it's name to pavleigh. we were in a 3 storie building, goodlass and wall was also in there. at the bottom of pitt row there was a high wall and you could hear fast running water, was this connected to the facts ?

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 5:10 pm

Tuskey, taEven though the goits were filled in 1905-ish , their 'routes' would certainly be a useful course for sewer and rainwater drains (as we showed on the Warehouse Hill/42 The Calls section (see pic, workmen market for scale + link to same point now http://goo.gl/maps/5Yaq3 ), as they already had the right gradients set centuries earlier.There are some watercourse guru's on here who may be able to explain / id what you recall.Thanks again.

Cardiarms · Post by **Cardiarms** » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 10:06 pm

The existing drain on pitt row is only a 6 or 8 inch drain, not to say it can't shift some flow but not a torrent, it;s just a surface water water drain, not a water course since the goit was blocked up by what is now weatherspoons.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sun 30 Sep, 2012 10:08 pm

Talking of School Close Bridge I have just come across the following in John Mayhall's 'Annals of Yorkshire' vol 1 published in 1861:-On page 459 in an 1839 section. "In the year 1829 a foot bridge was made across the river Aire at School Close, Leeds, and in the year 1839 the present structure was completed, for a description of which see page 346 of the "Annals," where the event was wrongly inserted. The first stone was laid in May, 1837; and in the 'great' flood in December of that year, the masonry then in progress, and the framework under it, withstood the immense pressure of wreck and devastation which was forced against it in such dense masses, that the flood was compelled to take its course down Water-lane, Meadow-lane, &c. The temporary foot bridge was forced down by an immense iron boiler which floated against it, and both were driven against the frame-work on which the arch was built."On page 346 it reported for July 6 1829:- "July 6th, was commenced the erection of the bridge which crossses the Aire at School close, Leeds. It is a neat and substantial structure, of the Doric order, built under the direction of Mr. Leather, C.E., by Mr. Mark Faviel, at a cost of £8,000. It is of one arch eighty feet span, and forty-five feet broad between the battlements. A toll-house is erected at the side. The bridge is now free for foot passengers. It was opened on the 18th of September."

Si · Post by Si » Mon 01 Oct, 2012 11:00 am

Another fascinating story from the past, Leo.I wonder who "lost" the immense iron boiler!

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Mon 01 Oct, 2012 11:10 am

Wasn't there a Hare surfing downstream on it?

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Mon 01 Oct, 2012 11:52 am

Jogon wrote: Wasn't there a Hare surfing downstream on it? Would that be the River Hare. For a mention of a hare in the river see my post on 27-Sep-2012 13:24:32 on this page. Sounds a bit hair raising to me! I'll stop now before I drive you all to drink, but a hair of the dog might help you recover.

Jogon · Post by **Jogon** » Mon 01 Oct, 2012 8:58 pm

Danke Herr LeodianI knew I'd read summat about a Hare.