Bus, crane, crash, copper, subway!

[BLAKEY]

I don't want to sound over insistent, but I clearly remember the subway and incorporated new toilets being built, and where the entrances were as explained above, and how the thing very rapidly became a slum with flooding from rain - and elsewhere !!. I'm equally confident that the bus crash crane was engaged in digging the subway as the time is about right.

[chameleon]

BLAKEY wrote: I don't want to sound over insistent, but I clearly remember the subway and incorporated new toilets being built, and where the entrances were as explained above, and how the thing very rapidly became a slum with flooding from rain - and elsewhere !!. I'm equally confident that the bus crash crane was engaged in digging the subway as the time is about right. I for one am suree you are right Blakey - my disbeleif is that I have no recolection at all of itSure I'm not alone in trawling Leodis for a glimpse of something, but to no avail, you'd think there would be something to be seen on the Briggate results but only the old toilet block appears.    

[BLAKEY]

chameleon wrote: [Sure I'm not alone in trawling Leodis for a glimpse of something, but to no avail, you'd think there would be something to be seen on the Briggate results but only the old toilet block appears.     Unfortunately I shall be away from SL for a few days now, but I'll be fascinated to see a picture of the subway when someone finds one eventually.

[Cardiarms]

I've looked widely but think the pics must be filed with the Guiness Clock.The flooding in times of rain suggest to me dodgy drains and an expensive bill for the council to sort out. Cheaper to fill it in an pave over. Problem solved.

[chameleon]

Still plowing at Leodis, still only the old toilets, save for a new tunnel of worms maybe -http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... ifier=5533(There are also references to the New York Road subway but we know that was a utility venture) EDIT: Just been told bout a possible subway used by another utility with a discrete access door towards the bottom of Eastgate....

[Cardiarms]

I've even been looking on sites for pictures of old buses hoping they'll be in the background. Some bloke calle Phill keeps popping up on a regular basis.

[chameleon]

Cardiarms wrote: I've even been looking on sites for pictures of old buses hoping they'll be in the background. Some bloke calle Phill keeps popping up on a regular basis. But not yet from beneath the flagstones

[buffaloskinner]

Looking at the mid 60s pictures of the Briggate, Duncan Street junction, none of the paths seem wide enough to build subway steps.

[carith1]

just for info I have had probs with pc and had to reregister.

[Phill_dvsn]

Somtimes we have to think outside the box, think lateral The only plausable explanation i can offer is featured in this 1962 picture herehttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... LAY=FULLIt clearly shows Briggate as a two way street. I guess at some point in the late 60's (with the arrival of the Leeds Inner ring road e.t.c) there was a big shake up of the traffic system in Leeds. We know Briggate was one way traffic in 1967 because this picture here confirms ithttp://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?resourceIde ... PLAY=FULLI guess the toilets in the middle of the road would now be in the way of the one way system.If we look at this bigger picture of the bus crash herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/438668 ... etleedsYou can clearly see hoardings and excavation work behind the policeman, nearly up to Stylo's frontage, which is now McCdonalds of course.Here's the 2009 scene of the same location herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/438745 ... 20357@N25/(If somebody wants to upload them for me on here, please feel free hint hint I'm guessing the entance to the toilets in the middle of the road were done away with, but they wanted to keep the toilets open. So the entrances were built on either side of Briggate, in effect it created a subway, but it was really just to keep the loos open.I know there doesn't seem enough room to fit stairs either side on the pavement, but the road didn't need to be as wide as it was when the toilet stairs were in the middle of the road, I guess they could build out the pavement to fit the stairs in.Something similar to this i would say (but not as narrow)http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... ULLLooking at the 2009 google street view day present image, if they 'pinched' the road in at the junction as i think they did, i think there is ample room to fit stairs in both sides of the street when the central reservation was gone!Any thoughts?