Leeds Railway Station's 'Lost World'

[Phill_dvsn]

Chrism wrote: *sits at computer desk twiddling thumbs and waiting very patiently* You can see where the arches collapsed by the new (smaller) arch construction herehttp://snipurl.com/uunqv

[Cardiarms]

Thanks.

[Chrism]

Phill_dvsn wrote: Chrism wrote: *sits at computer desk twiddling thumbs and waiting very patiently* You can see where the arches collapsed by the new (smaller) arch construction herehttp://snipurl.com/uunqv I meant waiting for Jims next episode Phill.

[chameleon]

Chrism wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Chrism wrote: *sits at computer desk twiddling thumbs and waiting very patiently* You can see where the arches collapsed by the new (smaller) arch construction herehttp://snipurl.com/uunqv I meant waiting for Jims next episode Phill. Likewise. Is Phill's other name Norman then?

[Phill_dvsn]

Cardiarms wrote: Where in modern did this fire happen?http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL I was actually answering this question, but i just grinned at your hard work statement Chris... Or is it Norman lol

[chameleon]

jim wrote: Whoops!Sorry Chameleon,I've not made myself clear.Sandford Street was and still is the name of the first roadway arch on the left going down Neville Street from City Square/Bishopgate Street.It is exactly on the alignment of the street shown on the large scale Alan Godfrey 1847 maps which predate the NER/LNWR Leeds New station,and to the best of my knowledge is still the term used in all plans and drawings for new works and repairs by the railway and its contractors,and by local government planning to this day.Whether it carries the status of a postal adress I can't be certain,but it IS Sandford Street.The second roadway arch on the left,just before exiting the "tunnel" has no predecessor but was and is Dark Neville Street in the same way.As to maps/A toZs,they don't show the covered sections of ,say,Swinegate or Neville Street itself,and are no demonstration of an underground streets existence! Here endeth the pontification! Jim, jut to be clear, is Dark Neville Street the road way which led to the Granary Wharf Site??

[jim]

OK,I'm a sucker for an audience!Across the river bridge most ofl the arches which held the Granary Wharf hippie shops seem to have gone over to parking,but look at the arches to the left.Not only do they run north/south,close inspection reveals that each dividing wall has a bricked-up east/west opening which I'll cover later.Coming outside we come to the area depicted in the attachments to the previous posts.Note that above the new brickwork is a massive iron beam.This tunnel was not originally arched,but was a branch of the canal to the upper reach of the river and was bridged using ironwork.There was actually a lock beneath the station approaches here with three sets of gates to cope with varying river levels.Boats served Soapy Joes and possibly other firms.Yorkshire Electricity's wharf received coal into the 1950s,after which the branch became derelict.Just inside the south end of the tunnel a short arm ran east through the arches I mentioned earlier,and in the 1950s I remember two or three abandoned Leeds and Liverpool short boats abandoned here,still afloat and loaded to the limit with worn out tyres.As to the fire mentioned in the previous post,I believe that the collapse occurred in the tunnel as ironwork would have less resistance to heat than brick.I don't think the railway ever used the arches west of the river for it's own purposes and feel doubtful if they had let them to tenants for many years when we explored them as apprentices-they were unlit and rubbish-filled,with mounds of an appalling lime-like substance.More later

[chameleon]

Phill_dvsn wrote: Cardiarms wrote: Where in modern did this fire happen?http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL I was actually answering this question, but i just grinned at your hard work statement Chris... Or is it Norman lol ',presided over for many years by Norman.Although giving the appearance of a troglodyte,'wasn't thinking of Chris

[jim]

Chameleon,unless I'm having another senior moment,spot on!

[buffaloskinner]

So the arch on the north of the station just before the river enters under the station is the exit/entrance of the old canal and locks? Always wondered what it was for, and never realised that the canal linked there.