Gatehouses????

Mork of Ork · Post by **Mork of Ork** » Thu 11 Aug, 2011 10:28 am

What about this one on Bramley Town Street? It's not in very good nick though.http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=town+st ... 5,,0,13.68

WiggyDiggy · Post by **WiggyDiggy** » Thu 11 Aug, 2011 1:28 pm

I know of two of these types of building, my google skills are notoriously bad so I've described the location as well:Corner where Burley Hill Drive meets Kirkstall Hill, the conifers are no longer there and it as been 'under works' for as some time:http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=leeds&l ... 0,-5.26Two doors down from where Station Parade meets Kirkstall Lane, this is actually 2 houses.http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=leeds&l ... 0,1.3&z=20

book · Post by **book** » Sat 13 Aug, 2011 11:43 am

There are lots of gatehouses in the Swillington area, Wakefield Rd. Around Woodlesford there are also plenty of them. Maybe they were part of the bigger landowners estates

Richard A Thackeray · Sat 13 Aug, 2011 10:38 pm

book wrote: There are lots of gatehouses in the Swillington area, Wakefield Rd. Around Woodlesford there are also plenty of them. Maybe they were part of the bigger landowners estates Yes, they'd have been for Swillington Hall.And a bit further east (believe they fall into the LS poscode, but I'm probably wrong??) there's the 2 lodges on the A169 Tadcaster 'turnpike', just on the south side of the Monk Fryston(A63) roundaboutPlus, Aberford, for the Parlington estate, & the lodge/gatehouse for Gascoignes Almshouses

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 12:40 am

One of the things I find interesting about these little gatehouses, or lodges is actually trying to find out what halls or big houses they belonged to in their heyday. Most are pretty obvious, but there are a few mystery ones about too. Some of them were built 200 yards or more away from the main residence. In that time some new build houses, and even estates have effectively cut them off, and it's not always clear to see how the Victorian estates used to look. In some cases the lodge or gatehouse remains, but the big house was demolished years ago. Asket Hall, and Seacroft Hall being a few examples, it's a shame to say the Seacroft lodge is in a state of disrepair these days.I'm just wondering if anyone think it's a good idea, or fancies a challenge to try place these orphaned lodges back to the halls they were built with?Here's one lodge I'm struggling to find out for what house it was originally built This charming little gingerbread house stands on the corner of Gledhow Wood Road and Ridgeway Leeds 17. The Google Street view/aerial image is here to get your bearings.http://tinyurl.com/42sw2y8The 1908 map shows good detail of the lodge and carriageway to the house it once belonged too. It appears the house was demolished sometime between 1910-1930.The present day map shows the area has changed beyond recognition with semi detached houses and Ridgeway Close built where the hall once stood. It would be good to find out the name of the lost house/hall if at all possible. I've come across a few of these mystery orphaned lodges around Leeds so far. I'll see how this one goes before I post anymore though

chemimike · Post by **chemimike** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 6:19 am

Surely Phil the house was called Gledhow Wood, as marked on the map. I thought at first this was the name of the wood, but I don't think it is not. It is the name of the house. The 1897 Kellys lists Mrs Schunck at Gledhow Wood and in 1872, when Gledhow is listed separately from Leeds in Porters directory, William Hey Esq.J.P.surgeon also at Gledhow wood

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 11:33 am

chemimike wrote: Surely Phil the house was called Gledhow Wood, as marked on the map. I thought at first this was the name of the wood, but I don't think it is not. It is the name of the house. The 1897 Kellys lists Mrs Schunck at Gledhow Wood and in 1872, when Gledhow is listed separately from Leeds in Porters directory, William Hey Esq.J.P.surgeon also at Gledhow wood I'm not sure it's obvious to be honest Mike, take a look at that map and the different bits of the wood have different names. Brackens Hill Wood for example. And what is it? Gledhow Wood Hall, House? I think it's just the name of the wood in that area t.b.h.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 11:48 am

I agree on first glance it might be mistaken the house was called Gledhow Wood, but if you take a look at the wider map you see it is very specific in naming different parts of the wood. You can see Brackens Hill Wood marked off on the map. That doesn't have a building named after it. Those different parts of the wood have more or less grown together these days, they just get called Gledhow Valley Woods, the old names seem to have been forgotten about.

chemimike · Post by **chemimike** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 3:02 pm

It is certainly confusing, but Gledhow Wood, Hawkhills and Hillside are all in the same itallic-type script, but Bracken Hills Wood is in a plainer script. Surely this means there is a difference , which to my mind, supported by the listing of a house of that name in the directory , means that the house was probably called Gledhow Wood. this , to my mind is supported by the 1891 census (This on Ancestry is at Yorkshire > Chapel Allerton (Allerton Chapel) > District 1 > 25 .) there is this (to my mind absolutely reidiculous) restriction on posting census images, but I have reproduced below the relevent parts of the entries either side of Mrs Schuncke:Schedule Road, number & name of house Name No169 Gledhow Wood Road Peter Massey170 Oakley house Joshua Wilson171 Gledhow Wood Road Bartholemew Gorman172 ditto John Lambert173 Gledhow Wood Kate Schenck 174 Gledhow Wood Road Nelson Reynard175 ditto Thomas Haw176 Gledhow Wood Arthur Wilkins (Gardener)177 Gledhow Lodge ?? Lister178 Well House Farm John Webster179 Gledhow Wood Road William FrankTo my mind there must be a significance to the listings of just “Gkedhow Wood” , rather than “Gledhow Wood Road”, especially as , immediately before one mention of “Gledhow Wood” there are ditto marks . If the “Wood” had been just missed out then why was it not just another set of ditto marks there ?

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sun 14 Aug, 2011 3:08 pm

You very well may be right Mike, I'm not disputing that. I'm just not sure the house was called Gledhow Wood' if it had house or hall after it there would be no question really.