Grey Walk, Hunslet.

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I'll try again. The ginnel runs past the marked chimney roughly between the two red blobs.    
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Cheers Si, here is the link to the map :http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/makean ... 727.htmlIt definatley does look like Grey Walk, I wonder which industry the chimney represented ?Regards.

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Hats Off wrote: I wonder which industry the chimney represented ?Regards. Tetley's Brewery?

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Si wrote: Hats Off wrote: I wonder which industry the chimney represented ?Regards. Tetley's Brewery? The map is breathtaking Si and hats.It's not quite to scale or dimensionally accurate. Hunslet Lane seems to take off easterly, when it is south easterly.But who cares, it's a great discovery.The chimneys are in the key as textile mills. The top one is about where yorkshire chemicals was, the bottom one in the midland railways good yards.There could have been mills there pre dating the industrial and railway sites created not much later.Fascinatingly a "North Midland Station" appears on meadow lane, when the actual Midland station was on great wilson street, COME ON RAILWAY BUFFS - explain if you can!!ATEOTD - we can't assume the mapmaker was aiming to be any more accurate than to depict the housing and the Cholera victims. He did this well. It may be the rest of his map making was of no consequence to him, which is understandable leaving us unsure, when we crave an accurate historical record. Somethings better than nowt and this is better than something!

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North Midland station in wrong place? The map predates the station, and also does not show Great Wilson Street. Presumably the cholera information ----and other info----has been superimposed on an earlier map. Another interesting point, the Middleon or Brandling's Railway is shown as cut short of it's original terminus at Casson Close, which was done, as far as I know, to allow the building of Great Wilson Street----but as I say, the street doesn't appear.The North Midland Railway was promoted,I believe, in 1835, first Act of Parliament 1836, others 1837, 1839, and subsequently, opened to traffic 1 July 1840. The station was further south than the later goods yard, at the southern end of Junction Street ( just where it turns west to meet Kidacre Street ), and was thus just east of where it is shown on the Cholera Map, on the other side of Brandling's Railway. From this I can only think that an original construction plan was to build the terminus on Meadow Road, and that the North Midland engineers--under George Stephenson himself, no less--had second thoughts. Perhaps the idea of a flat crossing with a rack-railway didn't appeal! All this allows for conjecture on the date(s) of the map. I leave that to someone else------my brain hurts!

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The Parksider wrote: It's not quite to scale or dimensionally accurate. Hunslet Lane seems to take off easterly, when it is south easterly.But who cares, it's a great discovery.ATEOTD - we can't assume the mapmaker was aiming to be any more accurate than to depict the housing and the Cholera victims. He did this well. It may be the rest of his map making was of no consequence to him, which is understandable leaving us unsure, when we crave an accurate historical record. Somethings better than nowt and this is better than something! Although the compass on the edge of the map points straight up the page, I think it should point North about 30 degrees to the West. This would put Hunslet Lane (and the river) in the correct attitude.The 1833 cholera map looks the same, but the compass is as I've described. Perhaps the later map was copied from the earlier one, but the cartographer lined his ruler with the edge of the sheet, instead of tracing the original? Is that clear?

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January 1833 cholera map. Note compass, top centre.PS What's ATEOTD?    
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Si wrote: January 1833 cholera map. Note compass, top centre.PS What's ATEOTD?     I think it stands for " At The End Of The Day ".Regards.

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Si wrote: January 1833 cholera map. Note compass, top centre.PS What's ATEOTD?     At the end of the day Si I am not sure - but did you see the Midland Station marked as being on meadow road??Rail buffs need to explain!!!

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Hi Parksider, have you seen my posting at the bottom of page one of this thread? In it I attempt to conjecture how this misplacing of the site of the then future station may have occurred.iHope it is of interest ( and even possibly readily understandable! )

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