Two Structures

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Thu 25 Mar, 2010 9:32 pm

Brandy wrote: I shall have a wonder up there this weekend to investigate. I'm glad someone else is gonna have a go!! Let me know exactly your route if you find it - I followed the elmete hall and park boundary - there's an old gateway from the hall to the park through that wall.

big_rob2004 · Post by **big_rob2004** » Thu 25 Mar, 2010 9:46 pm

The Parksider wrote: big_rob2004 wrote: As this appears to be a bit of a lost relic here is a map:This is only a rough idea of where it is. It's easier to find on foot than on a map due to it being in the woods. I must have walked right past it Rob - seriously!!!! I cant open that link im affraid but if its where im thinking then the loop and sun dirt track used to be a caravan park. long gone now mind.as for the route to find the shelter in the woods, the best i can describe is... from the little car park at the lido take the top path through the woods (behind the churchyard), at the top turn right and go across the muddy bit towards the top fields at Braimwood. Then walk northwards towards the woods. entering the woods follow the trail, its not a real path but its well trodden. try not to decend but keep as close to the edge of the woods as possible. the stand thingy is somewhere along there and is immediately before a boundry wall of some sort that has partially collapsed. en route you will find a couple of fallen trees.if it cant be found still we should organise a trip up there as ill know how to get there myself

big_rob2004 · Post by **big_rob2004** » Thu 25 Mar, 2010 9:46 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: It seems to be a dirt track that goes round in needless circles, i've put an overview of it up here if someone wants to put in on S.Lhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/446241 ... ecretleeds sorry this is the link i was on about :L

Brandy · Post by **Brandy** » Thu 25 Mar, 2010 10:57 pm

Warning to anyone taking a look around the old caravan park because theres deep open manholes dotted around there and some of them have 'boobytrap' like boards placed over them.And when i say deep im talking 4-5 mtrs!I was up there metal detecting(proper anorak me lol)just before xmas and i very nearly fell right down one of them.There was also some live high voltage cables that had been left open to the elements but these have now been made safe.I will tell you what i did find up there by the way some large caliber anti-aircraft shells(around where the red X is)so my guess is there must have been a big AA gun up here.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Fri 26 Mar, 2010 9:05 am

big_rob2004 wrote: as for the route to find the shelter in the woods, the best i can describe is... from the little car park at the lido take the top path through the woods (behind the churchyard), at the top turn right and go across the muddy bit towards the top fields at Braimwood. Then walk northwards towards the woods. entering the woods follow the trail, its not a real path but its well trodden. try not to decend but keep as close to the edge of the woods as possible. the stand thingy is somewhere along there and is immediately before a boundry wall of some sort that has partially collapsed. en route you will find a couple of fallen trees. Sounds to me Rob that it is in the woods of the old Elmete hall and not in the woods of the Park? Maybe I made the mistake of staying in the park?No reason why Elmete Hall Mansion and grounds wouldn't have had a shelter, indeed more probable that it did, for the family and guests at the hall taking a promenade in their grounds than the park building one high up in the woods where there's no proper path as you say.

Post by **chameleon** » Fri 26 Mar, 2010 9:17 am

Brandy wrote: Warning to anyone taking a look around the old caravan park because theres deep open manholes dotted around there and some of them have 'boobytrap' like boards placed over them.And when i say deep im talking 4-5 mtrs!I was up there metal detecting(proper anorak me lol)just before xmas and i very nearly fell right down one of them.There was also some live high voltage cables that had been left open to the elements but these have now been made safe.I will tell you what i did find up there by the way some large caliber anti-aircraft shells(around where the red X is)so my guess is there must have been a big AA gun up here. This is very close to where the Roman Alter was found - wonder if another SL contributor might know somethingabout any more recent activities?It's not the remains of the hardstanding areas for the caravans by any chance, doesnt appear on any recent mapping.

big_rob2004 · Post by **big_rob2004** » Fri 26 Mar, 2010 5:58 pm

The Parksider wrote: big_rob2004 wrote: as for the route to find the shelter in the woods, the best i can describe is... from the little car park at the lido take the top path through the woods (behind the churchyard), at the top turn right and go across the muddy bit towards the top fields at Braimwood. Then walk northwards towards the woods. entering the woods follow the trail, its not a real path but its well trodden. try not to decend but keep as close to the edge of the woods as possible. the stand thingy is somewhere along there and is immediately before a boundry wall of some sort that has partially collapsed. en route you will find a couple of fallen trees. Sounds to me Rob that it is in the woods of the old Elmete hall and not in the woods of the Park? Maybe I made the mistake of staying in the park?No reason why Elmete Hall Mansion and grounds wouldn't have had a shelter, indeed more probable that it did, for the family and guests at the hall taking a promenade in their grounds than the park building one high up in the woods where there's no proper path as you say. I have no idea about where the boundaries are between the park and elmete hall. i know there is a wall right at the side of it.

raveydavey · Post by **raveydavey** » Fri 26 Mar, 2010 9:21 pm

I went to Braim Wood school and we were forever exploring those woods (either through a cross country run in PE, or to our own devices at lunchtime or after school / weekends) and I can't recall the structure.I'm going to have to go have a look now...

blackprince · Post by **blackprince** » Sat 27 Mar, 2010 1:18 am

Brandy wrote: Warning to anyone taking a look around the old caravan park because theres deep open manholes dotted around there and some of them have 'boobytrap' like boards placed over them.And when i say deep im talking 4-5 mtrs!I was up there metal detecting(proper anorak me lol)just before xmas and i very nearly fell right down one of them.There was also some live high voltage cables that had been left open to the elements but these have now been made safe.I will tell you what i did find up there by the way some large caliber anti-aircraft shells(around where the red X is)so my guess is there must have been a big AA gun up here. I think you have identified it correctly as a heavy AA gun site.The layout looks similar to features in known HAA sites Compare it with these on Canvey Islandhttp://unlockingessex.essexcc.gov.uk/custom_pages/monument_detail.asp?content_page_id=89&monument_id=40014&content_parents=48,79Also the one in the photo - where each gun emplacement resembles the sun shaped feature on the Google Earth photo.

Brunel · Post by **Brunel** » Sun 28 Mar, 2010 7:27 pm

Found the Gazebo, I have Geotagged the image.If you download the image from Flickr and use IrfanView ..FREEBIEhttp://www.irfanview.com/ to see it, there is an option to view the image info.... exif data, and there will be an extra "button" to view the location in Google Earth.http://snipurl.com/v4nhhOr view the image on Flickr and use the Flickr maphttp://snipurl.com/v4njl